Ander,
I was also already aware of this Reddit thread and was also suspicious of it.
- Against my better judgement I tried it anyway on my Chuwi but all it did was disable S0 i.e. PowerCfg /a reported that S3 remained unsupported.
- Perhaps the author wrote it for the XPS Bios and that's why other XPS users said it worked for them [at least temporarily].
Denis
@Try3 I know because that is basic knowledge and logic thinking. I had over 10 tablets or 2in1 (which are tablets) in the past and NONE supported S3. Windows 8/10 tablets as I see it wont ever support S3. Just normal real laptops would support S3 with a normal laptop Intel CPU and Chipset. All Intel SOCs for tablets dont support S3 anymore and also all code for that are removed on tablets.
I know because that post is by me and I know what it does and also know the source code. It is not made for Dell or XPS laptops. It is EFI ACPI table standard.
Last edited by gorgor; 01 Jul 2020 at 12:28.
You are Reddit's mkdr?
With your level of knowledge, do you know of any test that can demonstrate definitively whether or not a device can "support S3 by bios"?
The term "2in1" has a wider meaning than just "tablet". It is also used for Intel-based laptops with screens that can be swung round into a tablet mode of use.
My Dell Inspiron 7779 is a "2in1" and it supports S3.
My Chuwi is identified in my signature & by clicking on the My computer link to the left of all my posts - it is a Chuwi Hi10 Pro.
- It is a tablet but it can be used as if it were a laptop by fitting it into its special-to-type keyboard.
- It does the job for which I bought it - allowing me to have computing power & my own files available when travelling lightly.
- I engaged in discussion with Ander & searched more generally about the S0 topic because I think this computer would be more useful with S3 than it is with S0
- I have long reached the conclusion that S3 will never be possible on this device.
- The following changes resolved much of my discontent about this device -- - Changing it to S0 Network connectedThis device, by default, disconnects from networks when the monitor turns off {which is when S0 ModernSleep kicks in}.
Changing to S0 Network connected allows it to stay connected to networks when the monitor turns off.
Not everyone will want to change this but it suits me to keep the device on my home network unless I deliberately hibernate / power off the device.
Enable or Disable Network Connectivity in Modern Standby - TenForumsTutorials- - Disabling the Lock screenThis is the screen that is set by default on this particular device and is the thing that you need to swipe upwards on, after the monitor has been blank, to see your desktop.
Disabling this allows you to see the desktop straightaway without having to swipe on anything.
Enable or Disable Lock Screen - TenForumsTutorials [Option 2]
You would also need to use step 7 of Change Screen Saver Settings - TenForumsTutorials if you have set up signing-in after screensaver use.
What prompted, "Unbelievable... just unbelievable this forum."?
Denis
I expanded the paragraph beginning My Chuwi is identified ... because the references to it being a Chuwi Hi10 Pro might bring it up in searches by other Chuwi users who would otherwise have been misled by my original comments.
Last edited by Try3; 01 Jul 2020 at 13:59.
@Try3 Sigh... I already told you now several times, Windows 8/10 SOC tablets dont support S3. The reddit post is just for devices which support S3, yours doesnt. I own another Chuwi tablet, it doesnt support S3. Yours has a Atom SOC I guess? They dont support S3. End of story. As simple as that. Throw it in the trash and buy a new device. This is not meant in a rude way. I am very calm and open about this but take these words: It DOES NOT SUPPORT S3. The End. .... ..... Dell Inspiron 7779 is a laptop with normal U series Intel CPU and chipset, it is not a Atom SOC (tablet).
If you want to post diagrams of any kind then here is the set of guidance articles. Just select the appropriate tool for any particular job.
A basic guide to using the Snipping tool - TenForums
Take a screenshot- TenForumsTutorials
Take a screen snip with Snip and Sketch - TenForumsTutorials
Steps Recorder - TenForumsTutorials
and for photos How to tidy up computer screen photo - TenForums
How to upload and post screenshots and files - TenForumsTutorials
How to remove a screenshot or image from a TenForums post - TenForumsTutorials
How to post a screenshot of Disk management - TenForumsTutorials
Denis
1. That's right, I don't have that key. Nonetheless, that suggestion was in the forum topic I pointed to, and I didn't know if it'd help people who did have the key.
2. Sorry to hear that. On the plus side, you'll help other people reading this thread avoid going to the trouble of trying it.
You'd think BIOS had the final say. But over the years, I've found MS's OSs often reverse BIOS-set policies. It amazes me they even can, but there you go.
I know my laptop supports S3, because I was using it before the Win 10 v2004 update. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.
Unfortunately, I can't install a third-party system-level patch based on a Reddit thread. I, and those I work for, depend on my PC too much. If it's not a mod I can make and understand myself, I'll just have to put up with the annoyances. Thanks though!
BTW, when I asked a "Microsoft Expert" about this online, the best suggestion they could make was to "refresh" my Windows 10 install and reinstall all the Dell drivers.
I'm trying to imagine why Microsoft would force this kind of change on us. My best guess is, in this age of instant-on smartphones, they worried that having to wait a few seconds after Standby would make Windows look old-fashioned. So they instituted this instant return, at the expense of leaving the system (and USB peripherals) running—and, in some cases, even keeping it online—presumably, without most users even being aware of the change.
If that's true, I doubt we'll ever see a true explanation. MS would need to admit they were more concerned with their product's image than with letting their users control their own computers.
Ander,
I do not expect to see any solution for my case but if I ever stumble across anything that looks useful for you I will return to this thread and let you know.
Bye,
Denis
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