How to upgrade please

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  1. Posts : 3
    W10 v1709 (build 16299.1029
       #1

    How to upgrade please


    Hi, please be gentle,, ! I'm an 78 yr old enthusiast with some but limited knowledge.
    I have two W10 Pc's that are working fine, but have never been connected to the internet since new
    Both are windows 10 Profesional (two seperate licences)
    One is Windows 10 Professional (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.829)
    Other is Windows 10 Professional (x64) version v1709-18299.611
    I now want to use them on the internet and would like to know the best way to update them
    Someone mentioned downloading an ISO no idea how to do that.
    I do have acess to this page at M$ and could download each update seperately ?
    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...q=windows%2010

    Which is the safest way ? I must not affect the programs already installed

    Thank you
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  2. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #2

    I suggest you use a Repair install [aka In-place upgrade] procedure to raise you to the current Version 22H2.
    Whilst you ought to make a new system image & backup your own files before you start [as a safeguard] your application & data should not be affected.
    After that is done, Windows update will run two or three current updates.
    - I download them manually so I can run them on my three computers.
    - If you have a fast internet connection then you might as well let WU handle the update job.

    To do a repair install:-
    1 Download the ISO - use one of the sources identified in Download Windows 10 ISO File -TenForumsTutorials
    2 You can run a Repair install directly from the downloaded ISO file as well as from an InstallUSB but, in both cases, you boot into Windows normally not from the USB-
    Repair Install - TenForumsTutorials



    For info, for future reference -
    You will only ever need to consider making an InstallUSB [or DVD] if you want to run a clean install [or to carry out specific repairs such as Startup repairs] - Create Bootable Installation USB - TenForumsTutorials

    Clean Install - TenForumsTutorials and, in preparation for one, consider Backup and Restore Device Drivers - TenForumsTutorials
    Startup Repair - TenForumsTutorials



    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 09 Mar 2024 at 11:08.
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  3. Posts : 2,734
    Windows 10
       #3

    I would not complicate things.

    Make sure you have around 50 GB of free HDD/SSD space on the system drive.

    Connect up to the Internet and go straight to Windows updates.

    Obviously being 4-5 years out of date there will be quite a number, just power through them oldest to newest.
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  4. Posts : 8,111
    windows 10
       #4

    Your version is so old that it won't update so a reinstall may be the only way
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  5. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #5

    Samuria said:
    Your version is so old that it won't update so a reinstall may be the only way
    Bullocks
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  6. Posts : 43,004
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    Before making ANY change, take precautions. A full backup (e.g. to removable external disk) is ALWAYS an excellent idea.
    I don't just mean of your own files, but the whole system- so you can recover even if the disk fails, the PC blows up and you need a new one or you have some other unrecoverable problem.

    If you haven't yet started to use 3rd party disk imaging (that creates a compressed copy of the used part of the selected partitions in a file written to e.g. a large enough external disk) - then doing so BEFORE attempting the upgrade would be an excellent idea.

    Probably the simplest program for you would be AOMEI Backupper (free version).
    You'd also need a large enough external disk - say twice the size of the data you're backing up to allow for ongoing use and expansion.


    Whilst updating SHOULD be relatively straightforward, there is likely to be at least one recent update that won't succeed (it fails for many). This one, should it occur, can be ignored ('hidden') - i.e. there is a way for you to 'hide' it.
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  7. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #7

    I have found it is best to manually select updates to install and only select one or two at a time. Yes, it takes a lot of time to do updates, but it does increase the chances of successful installation of updates.
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  8. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #8

    Samuria said:
    Your version is so old that it won't update so a reinstall may be the only way
    Windows update path from the original Windows 10, build 10240 version 1507....

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    I had to run disk cleanup to delete previous Windows installations here before the next update would come through:

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    Last edited by NavyLCDR; 09 Mar 2024 at 17:06.
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  9. Posts : 31,675
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #9

    NavyLCDR said:
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    It has to go from 10240 to 20H2 first as that was the last Feature Update to use a full install, replacing system files with the new ones. All subsequent Feature Updates were by means of an Enablement Package, and 22H2 should shortly be offered to this 20H2 through Windows Update.
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  10. Posts : 3
    W10 v1709 (build 16299.1029
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Thank you for all your suggestions. I have lots of SSD's laying around so I'm going to make some bootable copies of the entire 1GB C: drive, replace the original with it and work on the copy (for safety)
    May take a few weeks to do this, I'll come back with the results.

    I didn't ask but I assume upgrading W10 all the programs will still run ? in other words programs are back compatible within an operating system regarless of version ?

    Thank you again
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