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There is a way to preinstall Win 10 on the SSD on another desktop and then transfer to the one you want to have Win 10.
Do you have another desktop that you can use?
There is a way to preinstall Win 10 on the SSD on another desktop and then transfer to the one you want to have Win 10.
Do you have another desktop that you can use?
I tried this, to burn the ISO to a DVD+R DL, but it also failed in the same fashion, which I don't understand why. It always stock at the Win 10 logo without the loading dot circle icon. I've tried to turn off/unplug all unnecessary motherboard chip, functions and PCIe devices, but still. When it stuck, I can tell it is not reading from DVD or USB anymore, just hanging in there.
Thanks for the link and I've read it. But my motherboard doesn't have UEFI, so I can't boot into command prompt. Besides, I don't have issue running the setup.exe, just that I suspect it will always stuck at the Win 10 logo.
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I also couldn't see the reasons, I'm very puzzled. I even tried to install from a DVD but it also failed in the same fashion, which I don't understand why. It always stock at the Win 10 logo without the loading dot circle icon. I've tried to turn off/unplug all unnecessary motherboard chip, functions and PCIe devices, but still. When it stuck, I can tell it is not reading from DVD or USB anymore, just hanging there.
I shouldn't have a corrupted file, I have tried to create install media from MCT multiple times on different USBs. Each time is a new internet download from MS server.
I chkdsk'd both original HDD and the SDD, no any bad sectors.
I also tried this, but not through diskpart. I used MiniTool Partition Wizard to create a new MBR partition, FAT32, active partition on USB. Copied the contents of the ISO file to the USB, but still failed in the same fashion.
Feels like the issue lies in somewhere else, not bootable media. Is there some BIOS setting I should pay attention to?
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I do have a laptop with UEFI that I had successfully installed Win 10 on before. I didn't know I can pre-install Win 10 on the SSD, how does it work? Won't Windows 10 check the hardware setup it originally installed with? Will moving the SSD to a completely different hardware setup cause issue?
If I can do this, then it will be the most promising workaround I have so far, since bootable USB/DVD and cloning Win 7 then install all failed me.
Last edited by alienboy; 06 Jan 2024 at 21:48.
That puzzles me- there's no dependency on UEFI when booting to a command prompt.But my motherboard doesn't have UEFI, so I can't boot into command prompt.
Open Command Prompt at Boot in Windows 10
Boot to Advanced Startup Options in Windows 10
(and just in passing the method applies to both UEFI and MBR)
but the method shown will be and work exactly the same on any PC, laptop or tablet regardless if the machine in question is UEFI / GPT or BIOS / MBR device.
That said, you shouldn't have to resort to that.
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You can't take a system disk from a UEFI system and put it into a MBR system directly.I do have a laptop with UEFI that I had successfully installed Win 10 on before. I didn't know I can pre-install Win 10 on the SSD, how does it work? Won't Windows 10 check the hardware setup it originally installed with? Will moving the SSD to a completely different hardware setup cause issue?
If I can do this, then it will be the most promising workaround I have so far, since bootable USB/DVD and cloning Win 7 then install all failed me.
There is a method to change a from one to the other, but this can be a little tricky (see comments following e.g.).
Convert GPT Disk to MBR Disk in Windows 10
Otherwise given that basic level of compatibility, Windows is generally good at adapting drivers to a new environment.
LOL, my bad, I didn't know about the Shift + F10 trick. But still, I can't get to the Windows Setup screen since my old PC won't boot to it; have to use my UEFI laptop to do it.
That being said, thank you for the links, I've learned something new. I really appreciate your and others' help along the way. You guys are really getting deep into my issues with me.
Thanks for letting me know this, I may overlook the GPT/MBR part and think swapping SSD doesn't work. I'll double check the partition table style after I got Win 10 installed on the SSD using my UEFI laptop.
Though I got a bit confused, why you said "a system disk from a UEFI system and put it into a MBR system directly"? My 1TB SSD currently is a MBR disk. Does installing Win 10 on a UEFI system and the setup program will automatically change it to GPT?
When Win 10 is installed it respects the BIOS/UEFI.
If the PC only has a legacy BIOS, you get an MBR installation.
If UEFI, you get GPT/UEFI.
Clean Install Windows 10
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Windows is installed to unallocated space (normally) and creates its own set of partitions.
UEFI is better /more robust etc if you can use that. But if not for whatever strange reason...
I believe you meant GPT instead of UEFI, since we're talking about GPT vs MBR? Yeah, I can't use GPT partition table because my target PC's motherboard doesn't support UEFI. My understanding is that only UEFI supports booting from a GPT disk, so my old BIOS won't boot form a GPT disk. That is basically how my whole installation ordeal started!
Of course, unless I misunderstood something here...
Last edited by alienboy; 07 Jan 2024 at 04:20.
I see, I think you were wondering why I want switch my laptop to legacy BIOS? It's just for installing the Win 10 to the Target SSD, so that it won't make my disk a GPT disk. Since you mentioned the Win 10 installation respects the BIOS/UEFI. I will of course switch it back after I'm done with the installation with the target SSD.