I believe that your computer came with S0 Modern standby and I think you need to re-enable it.
https://www.dell.com/community/en/co...209710%20sleep
Disabling S0 Modern standby - range of experiences - my post #8 - ElevenForum
Denis
My apologies, I don't really know the inner workings of windows, doing my best to explain & understand all this.
Removing PlatformAoAcOverride worked
I have deleted PlatformAoAcOverride as you suggested, and the sleep option has returned! It turns out it was S0 Modern standby -- which isn't ideal.
Fake/true sleep and the original issue
My original issue, was that the screen would turn off and immediately back on due to the mouse click that enabled it. Unplugging the mouse resulted in a screen off but media/fans/computer still on.
However my other fiddling may have solved those issues, now that S0 is re-enabled it is actually sleeping and disabling mouse input, etc. Still, I read that S3 consumes much less power and some people have gotten it working.
Enabling S3 or hibernation?
Thankyou for the articles on other sleep states. I understand it's not easy.
I followed this forum post to enable S3 on a dell laptop, however it made absolutely no difference whatsoever. Do you have experience with switching to S3 or are maybe able to understand this better than I do?
I also wonder Hibernate can be enabled?
I essentially want to shutdown my laptop for days at a time, but leave 1 program open. My work program takes nearly an hour to start up which makes it impossible to just do a quick job, work at a cafe, etc lol.
Thankyou for your time so far Dennis!
Last edited by jrgoncal; 2 Weeks Ago at 11:42.
sleep optionhas returned
S0 Modern standby / S0 Low power idle / S0ix has returned
And S0 Modern standby / S0 Low power idle / S0ix is an idle condition not a sleep state.
This matters. Your computer is still running in S0 Modern standby / S0 Low power idle / S0ix.
Some new MS activities can be even started in S0ix [Windows update, email in the MS email mail app, ...].
S0ix starts as soon as your display goes off and ends when your display comes on.
Dealing with issues related to S0 Modern standby / S0 Low power idle / S0ix can get quite involved.
Referring to fake/true sleep just muddies that waters because only you know what you mean by this.
Yes, both my S0ix computer displays come back on when I wave the mouse around [I don't even have to click on it.]
Fans will still run until a cooler temperature is achieved.
Media keeps playing because your computer is still running. S0ix is an idle condition not a sleep state.
No, it is entering S0ix.
I did some tests last year that showed, in those particular instances, S0ix consumed about the same power as a comparable S3 Sleep computer.
Power consumption in S0 Modern standby and S3 Sleep - my post #85 - ElevenForum
See also Enable or disable Modern Standby connectivity in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
Disabling S0 Modern standby - range of experiences - my post #8 - ElevenForum
Some Dell employees [tech staff] have posted in the Dell user forum that S3 Sleep cannot be enabled on any Dell laptop that comes with S0ix [which might well be all of them by now].
Re Please fix modern standby issues! - we do not have the option to disable modern standby - Dell Community
It wouldn't.
There's nothing you can do but get used to S0ix.
And do note that the reference to CsEnabled is no longer relevant. It was the Registry entry that used to be the one to try using to disable S0ix in an earlier version of Windows 10. It no longer applies at all. Don't even bother trying it. There's no point.
Yes. In the normal manner.
Enable or Disable Hibernate - TenForumsTutorials
Does it not resume if you hibernate the computer and then wake it later?
- I used to have one that would not. I lost hours of analysis because all it could do was start the whole analysis again.
Or
You could leave the computer on in the way I do to let TS tasks run during S0ix.
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum
- I have not tried using this approach to allow an existing job to keep running but I would have thought it would work.
Or
You could set power options to keep the display on all the time and just set a screensaver to blank the screen if you wanted. I used to do this but gave it up when I learnt to control S0ix well enough to allow my scripts to run.
Denis
Yes. But if, like me, you want the laptop to sleep when you close the lid, then hibernate later if you don't return to it, then you need to add 'Hibernate after' back into the power options. It is missing in a default install on a laptop that has modern standby like my Dell. Mine is set to hibernate after 20 minutes.
Add or Remove Hibernate after from Power Options in Windows
I used to sleep my desktop computers (all different and ancient) to S1, w/o paying much attention. I had an age in which one or two of them (for sure my W10 system) slept to S3, which looks very different: S1 looks "ON" with the monitor in standby (nearly equal to turned off), S3 looks just "OFF".
Actually in S1 some energy savings are being applied, although the transition to S0 is very fast, latency/delay is unnoticeable to the user. Actually in S3 the memory and other subsystems are being fed, so that the transition to S0 is quite fast, although the user might notice some 1-5 seconds delay and a load from the hard disk (for this reason I asked somewhere if S3 was hibernation). In both cases the final result is the same: full Windows as you had left it instantaneously or nearly, although energy saving should differ quite a bit.
I had to do a "main" change in the BIOS from "sleep to S1" to "sleep to S3" (with whatever words but mentioning "S1" and "S3") , possibly other BIOS changes (I recall something about awakening with USB devices, although all my desktop mice and keyboards are PS2) and possibly no changes in Windows but not sure. I cannot recall why did I return to S1 as my sleep option, but S3 looked somewhat "strange" to me, I know idle consumptions (let alone S1 ones) are low (and unimportant for a desktop), and the reliability of these old systems isn't the best. With a modern system and professional constraints I would have thought of S3 as "ideal".
But S1, S3 and modern standby require support from the hw. Some modern systems with modern standby don't support S3 afaik.
Thanks for all the info!
It's visual studio that requires 30-45 min to read the codebase and build the intelisense each time it's opened. Unsure if it'll persist through hibernation but I will use the links you provided to enable hibernation and try!
I mainly use a desktop and use the laptop to quickly resume while mobile (train/cafe) so consuming as little power as possible as to not burst into flames while in a backpack is ideal lol.
Edit: This worked! Now my computer both has a working Modern Standby and Hibernate, both of which preserve my work perfectly.
Thankyou Dennis!
Thanks for the link! I'm cool with just manual sleep/hibernate buttons but this may prove useful in the future!
Ah very interesting info! And yeah, looks like Dell has scrapped all but the latest :P
Last edited by jrgoncal; 1 Week Ago at 14:18.
I do hope that includes preserving the state of play for your Visual Studio so you don't keep getting that codebase re-loading delay.
Thanks for the rep,
Denis
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Whilst I've never suffered from it, some people have reported their computers getting hot in S0ix within backpacks.
You can help reduce the chances of it overworking in S0ix by turning off network connectivity in S0ix.
Enable or disable Modern Standby connectivity in Windows 10 and Windows 11 - ElevenForumTutorials
I leave it on but I do have my networks set as 'metered' so Windows update does not try to download & install anything.
Set up metered connections in Win10-11 - my post #24 - TenForums
Or you can just use Hibernation if you pack it away but even then some people take extra precautions such as the metered connections I use and setting the Power options, Display off after and Hibernate after intervals to something short so even if someevilmalignunexpected Windows component does rouse the computer in your backpack it will soon go back to S0ix or Hibernate again.
- I do not use Sleep after nor do I use Start button, Power, Sleep. Avoiding them stops S0ix from drifting into a later phase that inhibits Task scheduler Tasks.
Running scripts during S0 Modern standby - my post #86 - ElevenForum
Denis
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