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  1.    16 Feb 2017 #1

    Is there an app for missing Sleep option?


    I have had a Win10 tablet and laptop for a while and found solutions to a few things I wanted to do on them on Tenforums (thanks). Right now I am setting up 2 Win10 desktops to replace the venerable XP machines I've been using forever. I just spent most of a day trying to figure this one out with no luck so I decided it was about time I joined so I can ask my own questions instead of reading about what other people have asked about.

    One of my Win10 computers is an AMD Athlon LE1640. Win10 installed the Microsoft Basic Display Adapter and the Sleep option is missing. I know that the proper solution would be to install the correct driver but there is no way to find out what the correct driver is (trust me, I spent over an hour trying).

    I wouldn't be concerned except that this computer will occasionally be idle for several days and then automatically open an application. Windows Task Scheduler will wake the computer up and launch the application so it would be nice to have it sleep while idle to save power.
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  2.    16 Feb 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,992
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hi, if you mean you don't see a sleep option from the Start Menu or Windows key + X + Shut down or sign out for example, then have you checked the control panel options here - or do you mean you don't see sleep options here either?
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    As you say, this may be related to not having an appropriate graphics care driver (see below). The first time I installed Win 10 (a long time ago on an originally Vista laptop) it took a couple of days before I received the graphics driver.

    Meanwhile you could try- and this is not recommended normally- downloading and running e.g.
    Drivermax (free)
    to see if that helps. It has me in a couple of exceptional situations.
    You've specified the processor- can you complete specs for PC type/MBO etc..?

    If you look at the manufacturer's site for the PC/MBO, what is the latest OS supported?

    You may have seen these:
    Lost the sleep option in the power menu in Win10 9926!
    Missing sleep option in the power menu in Win10
    Sleep in Power menu - Add or Remove in Windows 10
    How to enable Sleep? Power only gives me Shutdown & Restart
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  3.    16 Feb 2017 #3

    Thanks for replying. The Sleep option is not available anywhere and there are no settings for it anywhere, including the places in your pic. As I said before, I've spent a lot of time looking into this and yes, I have seen all of the threads you linked and a lot more on several forums and a lot of other sites. I'm pretty sure it is a driver issue.

    Just to let you know where I'm coming from, I spend a lot of time in front of my computer, more since I retired last spring. I can generally find my way around it and figure most things out. Until he died last April my son (studied programming, put together nearly every computer I've had) was my main resource for this sort of stuff and since then I have had to learn how to use Google to figure it out. I just bought a Lenovo M5800 for my "office" (aka computer 7 junk room) and I'm planning to use this one in my shop and I have learned a lot while setting up these computers. He was using this computer for a couple of months before I inherited it and it has been running for the last couple of weeks since I did a full Windows Restore and started moving into it so if the correct driver was going to show up on its own it probably would have by now.

    I am not sure what you mean by MBO. Until a couple of minutes ago the only specs I knew were what shows in the System window. I just learned how to use msconfig32 to learn the specs. I'll put them at the bottom of this post

    Now that I know what it is I googled Aspire 1200 support and found the page on Acer's website for it. I downloaded & ran their Driver Toolkit. It says 9 Important Driver Updates Found and first on the list is ATI Raedon 2100 (now I know what the display adapter is) I'm sure it will want to re-start after they are installed so I'll post this and report back later.

    OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
    Version 10.0.14393 Build 14393
    Other OS Description Not Available
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Name BOBSWORKSHOP
    System Manufacturer Acer
    System Model Aspire M1200
    System Type x64-based PC
    System SKU To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640, 2700 Mhz, 1 Core(s), 1 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. R03-A3, 2008-03-28
    SMBIOS Version 2.5
    Embedded Controller Version 255.255
    BIOS Mode Legacy
    BaseBoard Manufacturer Acer
    BaseBoard Model Not Available
    BaseBoard Name Base Board
    Platform Role Desktop
    Secure Boot State Unsupported
    PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
    Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
    System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
    Locale Canada
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.14393.206"
    User Name BOBSWORKSHOP\Bob
    Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory 1.75 GB
    Available Physical Memory 426 MB
    Total Virtual Memory 2.87 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 1.20 GB
    Page File Space 1.13 GB
    Page File C:\pagefile.sys
    Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
    Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions No
    Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
    Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes
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  4.    16 Feb 2017 #4

    Sorry, I meant msinfo, not msconfig.

    Well, that was a bust. I should know better. The page I went to was NOT at Acer's site. It was at Driver Toolkit's site and they wanted a subscription. I know better than that so I went back to Google and this time entered Aspire M1200 (I got the model name right this time too) and found this page which says that the OS was Vista.
    Acer Support: Aspire M1200 Specifications

    I can't find anything about drivers for the M1200 on Acer's site. I found a couple of pages with free drivers for it but the most recent were for Win7 and there was nothing for the display. So I guess I'm out of luck unless there is a 3rd party app that will bring the Sleep controls back.
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  5.    16 Feb 2017 #5
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,522
    Windows 10 Pro

    I'm not sure if this driver will work or not but you could try the legacy driver on this page. Legacy
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  6.    17 Feb 2017 #6

    That looked promising so I installed it. After reboot Device Manager still shows Microsoft Basic Display Adapter and Windows still doesn't have Sleep options but it installed something called AMD Catalyst Control Center which does have a Sleep setting. I am experimenting with it now to see if it works ant I'll report back when I know more.
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  7.    17 Feb 2017 #7
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,992
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Ok, we now know it's a desktop, Aspire M1200, originally running Vista.
    https://acersupport.com/acerpanam/de...M1200sp2.shtml

    Drivers to Win 7
    Product support

    -> latest BIOS =
    2009/08/24

    Version:

    R03.B3


    For more specification info try free Speccy.

    This is, like my old laptop, elderly. I got mine running Win 8, then 10. But it ran hot in Safe Mode- the problem is as you run OS's it's not specified for, low level drivers are not compatible with the hardware, or there's no compatible BIOS update.

    As there are no official drivers for Win 10, there's no guarantee this will work. That's the risk.

    A basic graphics driver from MS may well not give you the proper resolution - maybe it will on an older screen.

    If Windows doesn't find you drivers, you can try Drivermax (free, 2 free drivers a day).
    No guarantees

    Check your Device Manager - Windows key + X, click Device Manager, post a screenshot of what you see.

    (MBO = mother board)
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  8.    17 Feb 2017 #8

    Yep. Those pages are what I found.

    So last night I plugged Lenovo into the power meter and it was using 35-55W most of the time with peaks up to about 75W when launching an application and it dropped to less than 2W in sleep. I could tell the Lenovo was sleeping because the power light blinked.

    After installing the driver from Winuser today I set it for 3 minutes and came back later. The screen was dark and there was no sound from the drive but its light wasn't blinking and it came back nearly instantly. Without the blinking light I wondered whether it was actually sleeping or just "resting" so I plugged it into the power meter. It is usually between 45 and 50W with peaks up to about 80W. After sitting for about an hour while I did other stuff the power meter still read about 43.5W so I'm pretty sure it wasn't sleeping.

    In the meantime I did some experiments with letting the Lenovo go to sleep and having the Task Scheduler wake it and launch something and I'm not impressed. When I came back to it a few minutes after it was supposed to wake the screen was black until I woke it with the touchpad and then it wanted to have the sign in button clicked before it would do anything. I don't know why it wants that when waking when it doesn't when I turn it on but that absolutely wouldn't work to start my program when I'm not there....

    In the meantime I figured out that 43.5W works out to about 13.35 cents of wasted electricity per day. Less if I spend time in the shop and would have it turned on anyway (4-8 hours per day most days in spring/summer/fall). And in the winter I keep the shop heated to a few degrees above freezing; "Wasted power" basically ends up as heat so the power it will consume will keep the shop a fraction of a degree warmer (& maybe the heater will be needed a little less).

    Now that I see how little it will cost to run I'm a lot less concerned about having it sleep....
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  9.    17 Feb 2017 #9
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,522
    Windows 10 Pro

    Try this.
    If possible make a image of you OS drive to a external drive and a emergency start disk. I use Macrium. then:
    1. Go to Device Manager.
    2. Select Display Adapter.
    3. Double click on your video card.
    4. Select Driver.
    5, Select Update driver.
    6. Select Browse my computer for driver software.
    7. Select Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer.
    8. If any drivers are listed you can choose the driver you downloaded or any driver that is on the list and see if that works.
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  10.    17 Feb 2017 #10

    Making an image of my OS drive is beyond my skill set. But thanks for the suggestion.
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