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  1. Posts : 24
    Windows
    Thread Starter
       #31

    zbook said:
    If possible please test for driver versus hardware by running the computer continuously in safe mode.

    BSOD while in safe usually indicates malfunctioning hardware.

    Whereas no BSOD while in safe mode indicates misbehaving drivers.

    The testing must be for longer periods of time for computers with infrequent BSOD.

    The longer the continuous safe mode the better the testing conditions.


    The resolution in safe mode is not desirable and all to often the testing time can be insufficient with inaccurate results.

    For a laptop that is no longer under warranty it may be useful to compare replacement costs to servicing and possible motherboard replacement costs (after ruling out drive and RAM problems).


    There are software to stress test hardware.
    Often the results display pass as false negatives.
    So hardware swap testing whenever possible is performed

    These are some links: (including temperature monitoring)

    Prime95 - Stress Test Your CPU
    FurMark - GPU Stress Test
    OCBASE/OCCT : Free, all-in-one stability, stress test, benchmark and monitoring tool for your PC
    Download Speccy | Find your computer specs, free!
    HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID
    SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer


    You're welcome.
    Thank you I will try to test the device again in the safe mode.

    BTW is there any way to check GPU or something regarding the hardware, because I have some opinion that the NVIDIA have problem.

    And is there anyway the SSD is the source problem, because as I said before since last week my booting time in UEFI is taking longer that it should be (around 2-3 minutes, usually only takes less than 20 seconds)
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  2. Posts : 41,515
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #32

    Most often findings in Windows error reporting prompt drive testing.
    It rarely hurts to run drive tests to be comprehensive.
    Many can run while in safe mode or overnight while sleeping.

    To test drives:

    Sea Tools Long Generic test
    SeaTools | Support Seagate US

    HDTune Full error scan or Macrorit surface scan
    HD Tune website
    Check Hard Disk for Bad Sectors | Scan Disk on Windows

    HD Sentinel Overview and SMART
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring

    Chkdsk /b /v
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...s=event-viewer

    There are various drive tests.
    A drive can pass one test and fail another.
    The above software have free or trial versions.

    GPU testing: Furmark 30 minute testing. See link in the prior post.
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  3. Posts : 24
    Windows
    Thread Starter
       #33

    zbook said:
    Most often findings in Windows error reporting prompt drive testing.
    It rarely hurts to run drive tests to be comprehensive.
    Many can run while in safe mode or overnight while sleeping.

    To test drives:

    Sea Tools Long Generic test
    SeaTools | Support Seagate US

    HDTune Full error scan or Macrorit surface scan
    HD Tune website
    Check Hard Disk for Bad Sectors | Scan Disk on Windows

    HD Sentinel Overview and SMART
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring

    Chkdsk /b /v
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...s=event-viewer

    There are various drive tests.
    A drive can pass one test and fail another.
    The above software have free or trial versions.

    GPU testing: Furmark 30 minute testing. See link in the prior post.
    Will check again with that list.

    btw, how the best way to test in safe mode. Did I need to run some apps or did I use like I used to be. I usually encounter the bluescreen when browsing or zoom. And sometimes randomly when leave it alone the BSOD appears (when not in safe mode).

    The laptop BSOD when in safe mode. a minute after I post this lol. I only running video looping
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  4. Posts : 41,515
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #34

    safe mode > shift + restart

    Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10

    Record starting day and time.
    Record ending day and time of continuous safe mode.

    Plan 3 - 5 days or more unless there are BSOD or unexpected shutdowns and restarts.


    Monitor using reliability monitor:
    View Reliability History in Windows 11 Tutorial | Windows 11 Forum
    Reliability Monitor is the Best Windows Troubleshooting Tool You Aren't Using
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  5. Posts : 24
    Windows
    Thread Starter
       #35

    zbook said:
    safe mode > shift + restart

    Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10

    Record starting day and time.
    Record ending day and time of continuous safe mode.

    Plan 3 - 5 days or more unless there are BSOD or unexpected shutdowns and restarts.


    Monitor using reliability monitor:
    View Reliability History in Windows 11 Tutorial | Windows 11 Forum
    Reliability Monitor is the Best Windows Troubleshooting Tool You Aren't Using
    Well the laptop is BSOD now and here is the info in the screen: IMG20231114172350.jpg - Google Drive

    Will check the reliability monitor in safe mode after the restart.
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  6. Posts : 402
    Windows 10 and Windows 11
       #36

    Please run the V2 log collector and upload the output.
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  7. Posts : 24
    Windows
    Thread Starter
       #37

    ubuysa said:
    Please run the V2 log collector and upload the output.
    Here the latest V2 log:
    CANDRA-TUFA15-(2023-11-14_19-53-28).zip - Google Drive

    some notes:
    1. I log it in safe mode
    2. when doing the v2 log, there are warning about disk cannot be read
    3. Weird behavior when I am doing my thing in safe mode, the explorer window close itself when I am paste-ing a file or when I am navigating the file using keyboard arrow.
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  8. Posts : 402
    Windows 10 and Windows 11
       #38

    First off, you're running on the iGPU in the Ryzen CPU. The RTX 2060 is disabled. I assume that's a deliberate part of troubleshooting?

    I know you've run Memtest but all of these latest dumps (from today and yesterday) point strongly at a RAM, or possibly CPU, issue. We're seeing an illegal instruction bugcheck, a LIST structure corruption, a memory access violation, a stack buffer overrun, and a misaligned instruction pointer. Many of the dumps were running graphics operations, but not all were, and they all fail for different reasons.

    I think for now we should accept that you've tested the RAM and found nothing obvious, so we should next turn our attention to the CPU. I'm in agreement with @zbook that running Prime95 is the best next step. I suggest you run all three Prime95 tests, because we don't just want to stress the CPU we want to stress the CPU and RAM interface. Run each test (small FFTs, large FFTs, and Blend) one after another for at least 1 hour per test, longer if you can.

    This WILL cause your CPU to run hot, so also run a temperature monitor (such as CoreTemp) to keep an eye on your CPU temperatures.

    If Prime95 displays any errors, if the PC crashes or BSODs, or if the CPU temp rises over 100°C (Tmax on your CPU is 105°C) then stop Prime95 and let us know what happened.
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  9. Posts : 41,515
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #39

    There were 6 BSOD today 11/14/2023.
    The bugchecks were 1E, F7, 139, D1.
    The AMD GPU drivers were involved in the latest spontaneous safe mode crashes.

    Please clean install the AMD GPU drivers using DDU.

    Display Driver Uninstaller: How to use | Tutorials

    Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) | Wagnardsoft

    https://www.amd.com/en/support


    The laptop has AMD switchable graphics.
    One option for testing is to turn off the AMD integrated (iGPU) and use only the Nvidia dGPU.
    https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh-017

    Code:
    Name	AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics
    PNP Device ID	PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_1636&SUBSYS_1E211043&REV_C6\4&12C9051D&0&0041
    Adapter Type	AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x1636), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
    Adapter Description	AMD Radeon(TM) Graphics
    Adapter RAM	512.00 MB (536,870,912 bytes)
    Installed Drivers	C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0397033.inf_amd64_bf2b1fc18ba7195d\B396953\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0397033.inf_amd64_bf2b1fc18ba7195d\B396953\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0397033.inf_amd64_bf2b1fc18ba7195d\B396953\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0397033.inf_amd64_bf2b1fc18ba7195d\B396953\amdxc64.dll
    Driver Version	31.0.21905.1001
    INF File	oem7.inf (ati2mtag_Renoir section)
    Color Planes	Not Available
    Color Table Entries	4294967296
    Resolution	1920 x 1080 x 1 hertz
    Bits/Pixel	32
    Memory Address	0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF
    Memory Address	0xE0000000-0xE01FFFFF
    Memory Address	0xFC500000-0xFC57FFFF
    Driver	C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERSTORE\FILEREPOSITORY\U0397033.INF_AMD64_BF2B1FC18BA7195D\B396953\AMDKMDAG.SYS (31.0.21905.1001, 101.45 MB (106,378,272 bytes), 11/4/2023 11:15 AM)


    Code:
    amdfendr.sys Wed May  3 12:09:50 2023 (6452955E)

    Code:
    amdkmdag.sys Tue Oct 17 15:04:00 2023 (652EE8B0)
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  10. Posts : 24
    Windows
    Thread Starter
       #40

    ubuysa said:
    First off, you're running on the iGPU in the Ryzen CPU. The RTX 2060 is disabled. I assume that's a deliberate part of troubleshooting?

    I know you've run Memtest but all of these latest dumps (from today and yesterday) point strongly at a RAM, or possibly CPU, issue. We're seeing an illegal instruction bugcheck, a LIST structure corruption, a memory access violation, a stack buffer overrun, and a misaligned instruction pointer. Many of the dumps were running graphics operations, but not all were, and they all fail for different reasons.

    I think for now we should accept that you've tested the RAM and found nothing obvious, so we should next turn our attention to the CPU. I'm in agreement with @zbook that running Prime95 is the best next step. I suggest you run all three Prime95 tests, because we don't just want to stress the CPU we want to stress the CPU and RAM interface. Run each test (small FFTs, large FFTs, and Blend) one after another for at least 1 hour per test, longer if you can.

    This WILL cause your CPU to run hot, so also run a temperature monitor (such as CoreTemp) to keep an eye on your CPU temperatures.

    If Prime95 displays any errors, if the PC crashes or BSODs, or if the CPU temp rises over 100°C (Tmax on your CPU is 105°C) then stop Prime95 and let us know what happened.
    Yes, I disabled the NVIDIA because the BSOD rarely occurred when I disable it. Will try the Prime95 again after I clean install the AMD GPU as zbook said, I happen to do Prime95 some times ago and the report return some error report but I can't understand it.


    @zbook
    I'll do the clean install and will try to testing turn off iGPU. Thanks for the reference, because I try to disable the iGPU from the Device Manager before and it can't be done.
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