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  1.    06 Feb 2016 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Ok thank you will do that in future.
    Found it if you know what I mean.
    Did not want to lose it or some members not be able to click on link to read the rest
    What you did is fine with me but ya have to remember I don't run this place.

    And interesting topic... thanks for sharing!!
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  2.    07 Feb 2016 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Would you rather wait, to have bugs fixed, and security holes fixed? Not me, I want the patches as soon as they're ready!
    I think I'm not explaining myself.

    The oldes here will remember how companies used to work a few years ago. They developed a new version of some software, and they just polished it until it was 99,9% perfect. Then, they released that software being sure that it was the final version. Yeah, of course, some revisions happened on the way, but now we are on a kind of constant patching in every type of software.

    It happens in OSs, but also in mobile apps. You're getting constant patches and fixes. Is like: developers, have you tested enough the software before getting it released, or are you a victym of app consumism and want it to be out ASAP in order to be available?
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  3.    07 Feb 2016 #23
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    These days it is absolutely impossible for Microsoft to test for every type of computer(desktops, netbooks, laptops, smart phones, Raspberry Pi, and now the multitude of IoT(Internet of Things)) there will be conflicts with hardware and other in stalled software. So Microsoft will have to patch, when bugs are found and fixed. This is what GNU/Linux users have had for years, and what has made their OSs so safe and stable.
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  4.    07 Feb 2016 #24
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    Whilst I have supported Insider versions, I do find the recent frequent releases to fix just bugs to be rather annoying.

    I would prefer to wait a bit longer eg they rush out new upgrades with some fairly major known issues which seems pointless to me. To me, too frequent is as bad as too infrequent (even on the fast ring).

    MS do not seem to have the balance correct. Given we have a wonderful slider to select between fast and slow ring, pehaps we could have a 'medium ring' ie we could easily decline an update if we feel it is not worth it, but still update more frequently than on the slow ring.
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  5.    07 Feb 2016 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    Whilst I have supported Insider versions, I do find the recent frequent releases to fix just bugs to be rather annoying.

    I would prefer to wait a bit longer eg they rush out new upgrades with some fairly major known issues which seems pointless to me. To me, too frequent is as bad as too infrequent (even on the fast ring).

    MS do not seem to have the balance correct. Given we have a wonderful slider to select between fast and slow ring, pehaps we could have a 'medium ring' ie we could easily decline an update if we feel it is not worth it, but still update more frequently than on the slow ring.
    Major issues!!! you must be running a different O/S than I. the latest Insider version is running better than my RTM.
    As for an adjustable slider, next thing you will expect the Insider O/S to have hot coffee and toast ready first thing in the morning.
    Bugs of course there are bugs....why else would M$ run the insider program?...what would be the point.
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  6.    07 Feb 2016 #26
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    As for an adjustable slider, next thing you will expect the Insider O/S to have hot coffee and toast ready first thing in the morning.
    Dencal you had me in stitches with that nearly choked on my coffee

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  7.    07 Feb 2016 #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost82 View Post
    And this keeps giving me the feeling about us, users, beig converted in eternal beta testers. All is ending on patches, build updates, cumulative whatevers and what nots.

    This is exactly what Insider program is for. Don't use it on your daily driver as there are a number of unfixed issues with each release.

    I just play with it in vmware.
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  8.    07 Feb 2016 #28
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    I don't know if I'm being able or not to explain what I'm saying. But let's give a final chance.

    Ok, I'm not on any beta/insider/tester channel for any software. But, anyways, and talking in general, almost EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM is getting tons of patches, updates and upgrades per mont no matter what patform are you using. Again: talking in general. It happens in Android, in Windows, etc...

    I'm just expressing that feeling of us, users, being now constantly testing unfinished versions of almost any kind of software.
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  9.    07 Feb 2016 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost82 View Post
    I think I'm not explaining myself.

    The oldes here will remember how companies used to work a few years ago. They developed a new version of some software, and they just polished it until it was 99,9% perfect. Then, they released that software being sure that it was the final version. Yeah, of course, some revisions happened on the way, but now we are on a kind of constant patching in every type of software.

    It happens in OSs, but also in mobile apps. You're getting constant patches and fixes. Is like: developers, have you tested enough the software before getting it released, or are you a victym of app consumism and want it to be out ASAP in order to be available?
    Really?? I worked IT for many years and we never had that kind of luxury of getting things 99.9% perfect, ever. We had to get it ready for the drop dead date and then we worked on bugs the very next day.

    Where did you work as an IT developer and got this kind of time to do all of this testing???
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  10.    07 Feb 2016 #30
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    I remember windows 98 and XP coming out with loads of errors and bugs.
    No OS will be bug free not apple, or Android.
    In fact Apple has just released an update not long ago for their IPhone 6 and some members are having problems with it
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