Windows 10: MS Might Have Removed Win 10 TH2 ISOs Because of Activation Issues

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  1.    23 Nov 2015 #11

    AndreyT said: View Post
    Go where with Linux? If all you want is your machine to boot and then serve as an additional ambient light source (from the monitor) with a built-in web browser, they you can definitely "go with Linux". But many (if not most) of us actually use our Windows machines as workstations in our daily work. How would Linux fit into that picture?
    There are many who can actually go with linux, but also many who can't or don't want to. Just depends on each individual and their needs. I personally use both every day. You can also bet that if MS doesn't get their sh*t together soon, then you're probably going to see a lot of people and businesses decide that they just don't need Windows anymore....
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  2.    23 Nov 2015 #12

    kerodo said: View Post
    You can also bet that if MS doesn't get their sh*t together soon, then you're probably going to see a lot of people and businesses decide that they just don't need Windows anymore....
    Smart people and smart businesses remain on Windows 7 - and are getting things done as usual.
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  3.    23 Nov 2015 #13

    SonicMojo said: View Post
    Smart people and smart businesses remain on Windows 7 - and are getting things done as usual.
    Yes, at this point Win 7 still dominates, which is good. 7 was probably one of the best things MS every put out. I bought it the first day it hit stores. But there are some serious problems with MS now. People won't put up with this forever.....
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  4.    23 Nov 2015 #14

    kerodo said: View Post
    People won't put up with this forever.....
    Well - I was one of them. Had Windows 10 on one machine since early August - but after weeks of "telemetry" crap, privacy issues, incompatibilities and so on - I decided it was time to get back to actual productivity - so I wiped it and returned to Windows 7.

    After holding out some high hopes - espeically after the pull of 1511 - my gut feel is 10 is a real mess now - MS has taken their new "software as service" model way too far. Now it's just disaster after disaster. Feels like Apple....

    Sonic.
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  5.    23 Nov 2015 #15

    kerodo said: View Post
    ...then you're probably going to see a lot of people and businesses decide that they just don't need Windows anymore....
    It is not really that easy. Most of the world runs on Windows, and I'm not talking about desktop workstations. Front ends of virtually everything: air traffic control software, X-ray machines at airports, ATMs, medical equipment, Point-of-Sale terminals, industrial machines etc. etc. etc. is running on Windows these days. There are non-Windows solutions as well, but Windows dominance is not even challenged. This is much more difficult to change than some workstation that is used for emailing and web browsing.

    As an example from a completely different area, I'm a software developer whose target platform is Linux, Linux and only Linux. However, I'm not planning to give up Windows as my primary everyday development platform (yes, for Linux-targeted products) simply because Linux is still nowhere close to Windows in that department.
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  6.    23 Nov 2015 #16

    SonicMojo said: View Post
    After holding out some high hopes - espeically after the pull of 1511 - my gut feel is 10 is a real mess now - MS has taken their new "software as service" model way too far. Now it's just disaster after disaster. Feels like Apple....
    Yeah, I fear a horror in sequels: TH2 breaks BitLocker > TH3 breaks MS Office > TH4 breaks third party apps ...

    I have upgraded one test machine to Windows 10 and have kept it so far, but I don't feel like upgrading my other machines. I truly hope that Microsoft can get its act together by 2020 (W7 EoS)
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       23 Nov 2015 #17

    Greg Carmack - ain't that our own Gregrocker, who hasn't been immanent here since June?
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  8.    23 Nov 2015 #18

    SonicMojo said: View Post
    Well - I was one of them. Had Windows 10 on one machine since early August - but after weeks of "telemetry" crap, privacy issues, incompatibilities and so on - I decided it was time to get back to actual productivity - so I wiped it and returned to Windows 7.

    After holding out some high hopes - espeically after the pull of 1511 - my gut feel is 10 is a real mess now - MS has taken their new "software as service" model way too far. Now it's just disaster after disaster. Feels like Apple....

    Sonic.
    I've worked with 10 now for about 4 months or so, since the previews and the July release. I did the November "upgrade" and when it was done, my machine's performance was hosed, so I then did a clean install of 1511 from ISO, and that went well, but then various bugs and glitches started appearing. My overall impression of 10 at this point is that it's in pretty bad shape. Too buggy and the way they're now forcing "upgrades" won't fly either. I will have to hold off on 10 for now, till things settle some, and until they straighten all this out at MS. To me, the kindest way of putting it would be to say that it just doesn't look good.
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  9.    23 Nov 2015 #19

    AndreyT said: View Post
    It is not really that easy. Most of the world runs on Windows, and I'm not talking about desktop workstations. Front ends of virtually everything: air traffic control software, X-ray machines at airports, ATMs, medical equipment, Point-of-Sale terminals, industrial machines etc. etc. etc. is running on Windows these days. There are non-Windows solutions as well, but Windows dominance is not even challenged. This is much more difficult to change than some workstation that is used for emailing and web browsing.

    As an example from a completely different area, I'm a software developer whose target platform is Linux, Linux and only Linux. However, I'm not planning to give up Windows as my primary everyday development platform (yes, for Linux-targeted products) simply because Linux is still nowhere close to Windows in that department.
    Yes, I know you're probably right. Desktop Linux is one of those things that most likely will never take hold, since it hasn't up to now, and I doubt it ever will, for a variety of reasons. I'm just frustrated with 10 and it's current status, and if I'm right, I think much of the public will get frustrated with it too. And beyond the everyday user, I really can't see corporate/business deploying 10 at all.

    I guess we'll just have to see how it all sorts out in this coming year or two...
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  10.    23 Nov 2015 #20

    AndreyT said: View Post
    It is not really that easy. Most of the world runs on Windows, and I'm not talking about desktop workstations.
    Um, you might want to check that. As far as desktops go, yes Windows is the primary platform. But if you are talking about servers in businesses and those running the Internet, Linux is a huge player. Apache, Tomcat, MySQL, BIND, Sendmail these things run tons of stuff in the real world. My business desktops are about 90% windows, 10% Mac. Servers on the other hand are about 80% Linux and around 20% Windows.
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