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jimbo45 said:

@smactilactusHi thereVAR !!!! (BTW a German product) now used to sort that out -- still not perfect -- rare for Germans who are always "Alles in Ordnung !!!" but it's on the right tracks.-- and remember the Internet --UK and TV -- UK (Scotland I think) wasn't invented in USA. Computing -- Babbage (UK) , Software -- Turing --UK --Physical electronic computer that worked -- Flowers of UK GPO around WWII time, Nuclear fission feasability Niels Bohr - Denmark, Graphene - UK not sure who the discover was but there was a Nobel prize in the offing etc etc. Nothing wrong with a US company doing what it thinks best but if it wants to be a Global player then one really has to get out of the all too common mindset over in USA -- "Not Invented here -- So we'll fake news it -- remember the film on Enigma --actually Polish underground resistance group in WWII got the info AND THE MACHINE -- Not a load of US soldiers as depicted in the film out to the Brits -- USA weren't even interested in the decoding device !!).Cheersjimbo

First, what's Turing, the enigma, Bohr and graphene got to do with M$ putting America first??? LOLOLOL!!! What we know for sure is the UK would be speaking German IF America didn't send them weapons and other resources for years before we even entered the war. And the US entering the war WAS the reason the Axis powers lost.
Second, the internet was developed in the US Government. The earliest records published are empirical evidence of that. Anything else is revisionist history. Also, M$ developing for America first is ALWAYS going to be the case. And the rest of the world WILL continue to buy it, because they are completely entrenched in common computing, and have a gigantic lead over open source projects. Apple is ALSO an American company. So there is no "if it (M$) wants to be a Global player"... THEY ARE "THE" GLOBAL PLAYER, like it or not. That's just life. Interesting reply though.

smactilactus said:

First, what's Turing, the enigma, Bohr and graphene got to do with M$ putting America first??? LOLOLOL!!! What we know for sure is the UK would be speaking German IF America didn't send them weapons and other resources for years before we even entered the war. And the US entering the war WAS the reason the Axis powers lost.
Second, the internet was developed in the US Government. The earliest records published are empirical evidence of that. Anything else is revisionist history. Also, M$ developing for America first is ALWAYS going to be the case. And the rest of the world WILL continue to buy it, because they are completely entrenched in common computing, and have a gigantic lead over open source projects. Apple is ALSO an American company. So there is no "if it (M$) wants to be a Global player"... THEY ARE "THE" GLOBAL PLAYER, like it or not. That's just life. Interesting reply though.

Hi there

Interesting speculation -- might be USA (there wouldn't actually be one at all) would be speaking Spanish or one of the native American languages if UK (England at the time as UK didn't as an entity until some time around 1700's ) hadn't started to colonize America in the first place !!!!!!!!

Actually as far as a Global player -- of course Ms is a global player but it doesn't make a lot of sense to ignore your global markets or pay them "short shrift".

Even the largest corporations can disappear with wrong marketing decisions and bad technical investments -- look at the once mighty Kodak or Frigidair companies --both household words in their day, General Motors which is struggling in the modern world of climate change etc etc.

ARPNET was the actual thing invented -- was originally so that a few computers could communicate on something like a University network -- the actual Internet was when the http protocol was designed and developed which became the Internet and that definitely was NOT a US invention.

ARPANET - Wikipedia

Remember also the Internet (without witch Ms wouldn't have got anywhere near its massive size and global penetration) was invented by Tim Berners Lee (a Brit I think) -- although as Icelander my grandparents still remember when UK invaded Iceland around 1940 in WWII and then handed their area over to the USA which became for years the Keflavik US / NATO base until becoming the main International commercial airport not all that many years ago !!!!! --History is full of surprising facts and of course nobody with any sense fails to recognize that the world on the whole has been a better place BECAUSE of the contributions of USA (and still a great place to visit etc).

You might find this a little interesting read !!!

NATO BASE KEFLAVIK ICELAND

cheers
jimbo