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  1. waltc's Avatar
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    Win10x64 v2004 latest build fast ring
       #280

    Hello, fellow Insider chain-gang inmates!...;) Long time no see! What a motley crew...:really: Well, I've been busy with this or that so I haven't logged in here in a while, a fairly long while. I'm still active in the Insider's program, but I dropped back to slow with 17763.xxxx (present build .134), and I've had exactly zero problems with the build in my systems at home (got the wife's box on the same build, etc. too.) Oh, yes--I'm running on the hardware--can't see using a VM and haven't for sometime. I can't recall the last time I made an ISO for any reason--Win Update has been working flawlessly for me all year. I pop in here from time to time to look at what's percolating and think I may have some freer time on my hands for awhile to occasionally actually post now and then as time and interest permit...:party:

    I see that some of folks seem to be having problems large and small with the 18xxx.xxx builds now being distributed via Fast. Honestly, there's no doubt for me that my present build is rock solid compared to any of the 18xxx.xxx builds--including the one I tried briefly before reverting to 17763 because of instabilities I encountered after only a few minutes of running the 18xxx.xxx build. The current 17763.134 build is much more stable than any of the 18xxx builds Microsoft has released--for my hardware and running my software--several hundred applications and games at installed @ home...! As far as stability and problems with a build are concerned, don't take my word for it. I'm just following Microsoft's instructions about which builds offer greater stability atm:

    REMINDER: As is normal with builds early in the development cycle, builds may contain bugs that might be painful for some. If this makes you uncomfortable, you may want to consider switching to the Slow ring. Slow ring builds will continue to be higher quality.

    Microsoft has included the above information in every build release of 18xxx.xxx, including the latest, build 18282 (19H1.) Following it has turned out to be a net positive! I will of course get back in the fast lane--just as soon as Microsoft releases an 18.xxx build stable enough to go to the slow lane, most likely.

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there
    Any Linux system can boot from any bootable device - even micro sd card.
    Your best method for a dual boot system is to define the Linux boot partition (/boot and maybe /boot/efi for efi boots) on a totally separate HDD / device -- even a usb stick or drive and install the rest of the os on a partition of your choice.
    Then at boot just choose the boot device . If you want the linux /boot could have an entry for Windows so it can boot windows . That way you avoid touching / contaminating your Windows stuff at all.
    Amen...! That was the way I did dual-booting for years before I dropped the secondary OS route--it was OS/2 for a while in the secondary OS slot, then Win x64 during the transition period when device-driver OEMs were moving to Winx64 drivers for their hardware. OS/2 was a bust, of course...and eventually I didn't need a 32-bit OS and its hardware drivers at all. Now it's all Win10x64--because with the number of applications I use even on a daily basis it isn't practical or desirable for me to manage two or more OSes anymore. But if I was going dual-boot I would certainly install each OS on its own, dedicated & bootable physical drive--and during boot I'd just hit the F11 key to bring up the UEFI bios boot menu for my motherboard (different mobo OEMs may use different keys for this)--select the device from the list--hit enter and boot away! I don't recall needing a boot manager in that situation as the bios is serving in that capacity, IIRC. Excellent advice!

    At system install time you can select what disks to use and where you want to install the boot manager.
    Yep--got to install them first, aye?...;) With a customary FAT32 partition, Windows10x64 can boot from anywhere, too--but the disadvantage there for Windows is that the drive has to be of a certain capacity--otherwise "There's no boot for you, bub, from that device today!"...:( Almost everything except a low-capacity SD Micros disk, if it's big enough, it'll boot Win10x64, I'd imagine.
    Plenty of advice on 'Nix forums on how to do this -- as this is a Windows forum I won't go into details other than to say installing most distros of Linux is pretty straight forward these days -- but READ THE SCREEN PROMPTS before willy nilly pressing Enter.
    For just testing / playing why not use a Live distro to see if you like it. I'd use one on an external SSD but a USB3 stick is also good -- Linux is tiny compare with windows if you just stick to a small GUI and don't install everything possible !!!
    For the nearest equivalence to Windows a KDE desktop is probably a wise choice -- the UBUNTU default GUI looks pretty appalling - for KDE on UBUNTU add the kde-desktop after install (or use KUBUNTU). Linux mint has itself a decent GUI too. I like CENTOS as it's really stable but might not be leading edge for some people here. In any case there's loads of choices.
    My personal ranking of the value of any OS commercially available these days is to judge it based on 1) how many applications it natively supports--without OS emulation, of course; 2) How many games it natively supports (nowadays that has become my hobby!); 3) How much hardware and driver support exists for that OS; and, 4) what is the quality and reputation of the IHVs and OEMs who maintain that driver and application support, etc. IE, an OS by itself, even Windows10x64, is of little value to me unless it does a good job supporting my needs & desires in both software and hardware. I've never been interested in running an OS for its own sake! (Obviously, eh?:cool:)
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  2. johngalt's Avatar
    Posts : 2,421
    Windows 10 build 2004
       #281

    magilla said:
    Does not always work. Several of us have had problems with uupdump — very sporadic
    Several of you have had issues with the *download* version. This is the completely online version that generates the script that you then download.
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  3. linw's Avatar
    Posts : 1,908
    win 10 Insider
       #282

    This is the error recorded in Event Viewer when my update fails. Any suggestions? system32 does have the ntdll.dll file there.

    Faulting application name: SetupHost.Exe, version: 10.0.18282.1000, time stamp: 0x1e3c3db7Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.18277.1000, time stamp: 0x939b480fException code: 0xc0000374Fault offset: 0x00000000000f8b19Faulting process ID: 0x1f8cFaulting application start time: 0x01d483c95be2f7cfFaulting application path: C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\SetupHost.ExeFaulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dllReport ID: cedd956b-a9f0-4a5e-a968-1526ebafdbc7Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID:
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  4. johngalt's Avatar
    Posts : 2,421
    Windows 10 build 2004
       #283

    Looking around online, I saw more than one reference to bad drivers that might be causing issues with ntdll.dll. What do you see in device manager?
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  5. linw's Avatar
    Posts : 1,908
    win 10 Insider
       #284

    johngalt said:
    Looking around online, I saw more than one reference to bad drivers that might be causing issues with ntdll.dll. What do you see in device manager?
    Thanks, John, for doing a look. This dll has been causing problems from way back by the looks. Typically, no real solutions, either!

    Device Manager shows zero problems. My system doesn't have any exotic devices, just plain vanilla.

    I'll just have to hold my breath for a successful update next week with the new (hopefully) upgrade.
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  6. Edwin's Avatar
    Posts : 17,064
    Windows 10
       #285

    This is an annoying p•i•t•a!
    I run into this a lot in the UWP:
    In a normal dialog, you can type/tab/type/tab/type without having to clear the next dialog box...

    New Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast + Skip Build 18282 (19H1) -Nov. 14-001306.png

    in UWP you can't, the cursor even lands behind the characters! You have to fumble for your mouse to clear the box or X out the characters!...

    New Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast + Skip Build 18282 (19H1) -Nov. 14-001308.png
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  7. Posts : 721
    ,7,8.1 10TP 10upgrade,MINT
       #286

    Yesterday, my 18282 decided there was no internet connection after running the WD off line scan. No amount of effort would get it to see a connection.
    I shut it down and switched to the regular W10 on the same pc, the only change of hardware being a different ssd and it works.
    The problem now is that if I cannot get the internet working on the IP, there won't be any updates, and I am getting fed up downloading iso's to re install it.
    I will probably go on to the slow lane eventually.
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  8. AndreTen's Avatar
    Posts : 23,321
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #287

    tinmar49 said:
    Yesterday, my 18282 decided there was no internet connection after running the WD off line scan. No amount of effort would get it to see a connection.
    I shut it down and switched to the regular W10 on the same pc, the only change of hardware being a different ssd and it works.
    The problem now is that if I cannot get the internet working on the IP, there won't be any updates, and I am getting fed up downloading iso's to re install it.
    I will probably go on to the slow lane eventually.
    resetting network didn't help? And check if IPv6 is enabled.
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  9. Posts : 282
    win 7 8 10
       #288

    I just installed a new ssd and couldn't get it initialized, had to blast the new ssd on another machine with its macrium 18282 build and worked like a charm. Now I have to decide how long I want to put up with the old puter.
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  10. Posts : 721
    ,7,8.1 10TP 10upgrade,MINT
       #289

    Hi Andre Ten, I just switched back to the 18282 to see if your suggestions would work and the darned thing is working fine without any help. I had tried shutting down and restarting yesterday without any luck.
    I have set it to the slow lane now.
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