HyperV

My name is Robert Fassbender, I am running windows 10 pro on old laptop by Dell Inspiron1545 When I first got it I loaded Windows 7 on it, now I am running Windows 10 Pro. It is hypervmy understanding that windows 10 deos not support XPMode? I have searched the internet and then found quite a few possibilties. I looked through all of them, one thing i noticed they were all written for a different windows 10 then I have, because they asked for things that my windows 10 doesn't have and even files that I couldn't find. I now have hyperv. I was wondering and how do i check if my computer supports virtualization? my other question is, doI need hyperv, and does Windows 10 support virtualization, and does my laptop support virtualization?

rfcomptech said:

My name is Robert Fassbender, I am running windows 10 pro on old laptop by Dell Inspiron1545 When I first got it I loaded Windows 7 on it, now I am running Windows 10 Pro. It is hypervmy understanding that windows 10 deos not support XPMode? I have searched the internet and then found quite a few possibilties. I looked through all of them, one thing i noticed they were all written for a different windows 10 then I have, because they asked for things that my windows 10 doesn't have and even files that I couldn't find. I now have hyperv. I was wondering and how do i check if my computer supports virtualization? my other question is, doI need hyperv, and does Windows 10 support virtualization, and does my laptop support virtualization?

Hi there

@rfcomptech

the BIOS will tell you if it support virtualisation -- I think there's a parameter vt-X that will do it (or equivalent on AMD processors).

If this DOESN'T support virtualisation -- all is not lost -- you can STILL run 32 Bit guests on the computer -- if using VMWare you might have to install an old release (12) which also runs in 32 bit mode but even the latest release will allow you to run 32 bit guests . Same for VBOX I think.

XPMode is a different thing entirely -- this was a bit of an Ms cludge way of trying to make it easier for people to move from XP to W7. However on any W7 / W10 machine running XP as a full blown VM (with or without Virtualisation in the CPU) should be OK.

Otherwise 64 Bit VM's -- no problem.

Actually an interesting experiment with the VT-bit set is that you could actually run a 64 Bit VM on a 32 bit host (so long as the Host was 64 bit capable) and you restricted RAM for HOST and GUEST to 4GB.

Cheers
jimbo

Robert, I don't believe that the CPU in that system supports the SLAT (Second Level Address Translation) that is needed for virtualization. However, just to be sure, go ahead and try enabling Hyper-V. I suspect that you will get an error message if this is not possible on your system.

Here is a link on how to enable Hyper-V:

Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10

NOTE: If there are any setting related to enabling virtualization in your BIOS, make sure to turn that on. The presence of such a setting would indicate that virtualization is possible on your system. I've seen systems that have no such setting but that will support virtualization by default.

hsehestedt said:

Robert, I don't believe that the CPU in that system supports the SLAT (Second Level Address Translation) that is needed for virtualization. However, just to be sure, go ahead and try enabling Hyper-V. I suspect that you will get an error message if this is not possible on your system.

Here is a link on how to enable Hyper-V:

Hyper-V virtualization - Setup and Use in Windows 10

NOTE: If there are any setting related to enabling virtualization in your BIOS, make sure to turn that on. The presence of such a setting would indicate that virtualization is possible on your system. I've seen systems that have no such setting but that will support virtualization by default.

Hi there
Any system will run 32 bit guests -- for 64 bit operation is where it starts getting complex --that's where you need to enable all the CPU virtualisation switches / options in the BIOS.

Cheers
jimbo

Thanks for the info, jimbo. It's just that I've run into systems on which Hyper-V cannot be enabled. In addition Microsoft states that to run Hyper-V a processor with SLAT support is required which the processor in that Dell does not support. Maybe virtualization via something other than Hyper-V is possible, but according to Microsoft docs it won't work on that system.

If I'm missing something please feel free to correct me.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vir...enable-hyper-v

Any system will run 32 bit guests

incredible erudition :(
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vir...v-requirements

rfcomptech: you can still use vmware player version 12.5.9 even without SLAT support.

muchomurka said:

incredible erudition
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/vir...v-requirements

rfcomptech: you can still use vmware player version 12.5.9 even without SLAT support.

Hi there
even with that it might not be possible to run 64 bit guests -- I'm not sure -- but 32 bit guests will certainly install and run OK.

As for other virtualisation systems Oracle's Virtual Box might work -- I don't know -- KVM/QEMU if it installs will work as essentially a TYPE 1 HYPERVISOR --approx equiv to HYPER-V.

Note also whatever options are in the CPU you must have Win 10 PRO (or above e.g Workstation edition / Enterprise etc) to run HYPER-V --won't work on W10 HOME.

Cheers
jimbo

I would like to thank everyone who wrote a reply to my question or questions. I believe I have the answer to my question and I have marked this thread with a solved and Thanks again to everybody that wrote an answer to my question. I am wgoing to download and install VMWare WorkStation Player as I believe that is the answer. If anybody has anything to add please feel free to do so, as I will be checking back at this thread from time to time. Thank You and I would like to wish everybody a happy new year.