MS vs 3rd party dvd and movie player

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  1. Posts : 38
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    MS vs 3rd party dvd and movie player


    So, I was used to being able to use free dvd players.. for many years, although I very seldom put a dvd movie into a usb dvd drive. I decided I wanted to watch a movie had had that was sold on dvd from maybe 15 years ago, and have a couple decent but older usb dvd burners, movie players etc, laying around. None of them would play moves. I tried the MS store fre version,s and also the older cyblerlink movie players I have colleted over the years were released long before win7, 8, 10, etc. Nothing wou;ld play the move dvd's I have. I finally got a trial version of a movie player, but it will ost like $60.00 for the released version when it trial version expires. MS had a sale on a dvd player, and I had some pints saved up on my MS Bing account and bought that ms dvd player from the MS store. I cannot see forking out $50.00 or more for playing a movie 2x per year. Used to be able to use so many fre eplayers, or crossover that burned dvd's and played them also, or got decent oem dvd playing software with new computer parts. No longer, it is all big bucks now, but can sually find soemthing with enough searching. Lots of sftware now seems to be like lease for ayears, or subscribe, and pay for each year, or updates every year. Disappointed in this business model. Like we have so much $$$ we can just burn through it! Yes, I can fdire up Netflix, or other but they don't alwasy have soemthing, or they charge too much. I have not thouroly tested the latest dvd software I got from MS on sale, but hope it works, nothing fancy, I don't have ahome theater. But I do have VR now, but that was intended for games. But, we can used it to watch movies too. Gotten away form my main thoughts. The DVD freee software seems like athing of the past now. And if anyone beings out the old dvd's they might find their dvd player no longer able to play the movies. Sad....
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  2. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    A lot of people seem to like VLC and it costs nothing.

    Denis
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  3. Posts : 2,554
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
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    +1 for VLC. It will play anything it seems.
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  4. Posts : 5,452
    Windows 11 Home
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    DVD Video is used since 1996, so unless your DVDs contain some ripped movies, I can not image, why they could not be played, unless the DVD is dead (most likely). I use free MakeMKV to copy DVD to disk (without ads, menus) and I also back it up online. I buy DVDs for license purposes and they look nice on the shelf.

    You could try K-Lite Codec Pack Mega, that contains all codecs available.
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  5. Posts : 1,621
    Windows 10 Home
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    +1 K-Lite mega codecs -- they work! @retiredat44 Cyberlink product - which one[s] and what version[s] do you have. I have used VLC for years, from Windows For Workgroups 3.11 to current Windows 7.
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  6. Posts : 1,203
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    K-Lite Codec Pack Mega contains a few extras that you don't actually need for what you are trying to achieve. So, instead of the Mega, you can choose the Full. The installer of the pack can walk you through multiple menu screens if you pick 'advanced' instead of 'standard' at the beginning. I recommend the 'advanced'. After that, you can just leave alone any settings that you don't know what they are for. You can still run the installer again later, it conveniently lets you add/remove/change every option.

    That being said, I find that choosing MPC-HC (x64) as the player and madVR as the renderer is the way to go. Unlike Windows Media Player, MPC-HC doesn't hog system resources so it's the best way to save more power and to keep the PC's cooling fan speed down low enough to be silent. The main important reason why I prefer to use madVR as the renderer is because the other ones have a bad tendency to cause visible stutter in the smoothness of the video output.

    With this setup there are tons of additional options that you can explore. For one, it lets you do audio bitstreaming over HDMI if you, like me, have an AV processor. (Or if you have an AVR, which is essentially the same except it uses a built-in power amp.) Another thing is that madVR can also be used to upscale DVD video to higher resolutions like 1080p Full HD, and, the resulting picture quality actually is better than any other upscaling technology that I have ever seen. That's right... even the expensive hardware solutions in the upscaling department couldn't hold a candle to it. Granted, there's a little bit of a learning curve involved. But it's not that complicated.

    To suppress judder in the video output, upsampling can also be used in madVR if your monitor can't do 23.976Hz (24:1001) like every TV can, but you'll need to have extra CPU power on tap if going this route. Most monitors are 60Hz fixed. Upsampling produces 'soap opera' side effect so, for watching a movie, just hook up a TV to the PC's HDMI output, and, in the control panel of the PC's graphics hardware, under the resolution settings, try changing the vertical refresh frequency to 23p, as that will change the video output to 23.976Hz (and will revert back if you don't confirm after so, if your screen stays black, then you can just wait for it to undo).

    With just about any modern TV, this should work just fine, but you'll notice the mouse pointer moves less smooth until you change the frequency back to its original default setting, usually 60p. That's all perfectly normal. I always just change it back to it's default setting after the movie has ended. I know that madVR has an option to change it automatically for you. But that option has just never worked for me, for whatever the reason might be.

    During playback of video in MPC-HC, you can press CTRL + J to toggle statistics overlay. It lets you see the framerate of the video content being played, and whether it matches the vertical refresh frequency of the PC's graphics hardware─the video signal that it outputs to the display device used. They need to be in sync for smooth video playback. That is, each time when a video frame either is skipped or is repeated, a singular moment of judder occurs, especially noticeable if it happens during a scene in which the camera is panned. (Once you've seen how judder looks like, you will more than usually notice it each time when it's there.)
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  7. Posts : 38
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    Win10 on it's own does not play them, and yes I have some of the free ones vlc did not play an mgm dvd movie I bought around 2007. I have a few programs that used to play them. I would have to go down a list, plus I have many of the oem version of cyberlink dvd played on discs I got when buying computer stuff, and collected these of the years, but they wil not longer work as they are to old to work with Win10. My point was for some of us that do not play movies very often, still expect to be able to watch the old dvd movies we bought, not burned, but purhcased in stores online from real stores, and real movies, not burned or ripped. So, I found one on sale and sepnt the money so I could watch the movie. Many years ago I used to buy video cards like Matrox, or use Canopus or other software for movies, make and burn movies, butt, I quit doing that ages ago. Just kind of sucks that Win10, you can not just put the dvd into the dvd drive and watch it, without a blank screen letting you know it is not going to be free. Unless of course you have kept up with the latest free software to watch movies. BTW, I did look up 'free dvd watching software' and tried to use what it said to look for, but none of those worked. Oh well, now I have some dvd software I might use once a year.
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  8. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
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    Hi there

    @retiredat44

    another + for VLC. Kodi is also good.

    Another tip - if you have physical DVD's you can rip them to ISO's via software like AnyDVD from slysoft or whatever its called these days (de-regionalises, decrypts commercial DVD's and de-DRM's DVDs) and then you can play these on remote TV's with things like amazon firestick -- side load KODI on to the firestick box and then browse to the ISO on your computer from the amazon fire stick --just play -- no server needs to be installed on the computer. In the KODI on the firestick (or equivalent box) start initially to find your computer via browse SMB Windows shares - then add the path to the VIDEO section and simply play !!! Enjoy !!

    Note KODI playing DVD Iso images on the firestick (or equivalent device) into a decent TV will give you menus etc just exactly like the physical DVD.

    KODI if you want to use it for remote TV's can be loaded easily onto any ANDROID box (e.g Amazon firestick, Hulu etc).

    Cheers
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  9. Posts : 2,144
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
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    VLC and or Daum Potplayer

    Both, no need for codecs which often carry unnecessary (and sometimes undesirable) baggage
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  10. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
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    idgat said:
    VLC and or Daum Potplayer

    Both, no need for codecs which often carry unnecessary (and sometimes undesirable) baggage
    Hi there
    remember though VLC won't necessarily decrypt commercial DVD's -- that's why I suggested ripping them with things like anyDVD. On Linux it's OK as you can install libdvdcss to do the decryption.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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