High ram usage with non paged pool size

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  1. Posts : 24
    windows 10 x64
    Thread Starter
       #21

    zbook said:
    See if this modified tuneup.bat script works:
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...s-version-.bat



    The logs were in a foreign language and were not able to be scanned.






    1) Run HD Tune (free version) (all drives)
    HD Tune website
    Post images into the thread for results on these tabs:
    a) Health
    b) Benchmark
    c) Full error scan


    2) Run Sea Tools for Windows
    long generic test
    Post an image of the test result into the thread
    SeaTools for Windows |
    Seagate

    How to use SeaTools for Windows | Seagate Support US


    3) Run Memtest86 version 8.4 (or newer version if available) for four passes.
    Repeat the test so that eight passes are performed.

    MemTest86 - Official Site of the x86 Memory Testing Tool

    Use a camera or smart phone camera to take pictures and post images into the thread.
    In case there are any problems uploading images use share links (one drive, drop box, or google drive)

    Memtest86 has a feature to produce a text report.
    Please post this in addition to the images.



    If the modified tuneup.bat script does not work then:

    1) Open administrative command prompt (ACP) and type or copy and paste:
    2) sfc /scannow
    3) dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
    4) dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    5) sfc /scannow
    6) chkdsk /scan
    7) wmic recoveros set autoreboot = false
    8) wmic recoveros set DebugInfoType = 7
    9) wmic recoveros get autoreboot
    10) wmic recoveros get DebugInfoType
    11) bcdedit /enum {badmemory}

    12) When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into the thread

    Use this link as needed when posting results:
    How to Change Post Editor to Source or WYSIWYG Mode at TenForums.com

    File did give same error this is result of cmd code
    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19042.630]
    (c) 2020 Microsoft Corporation. Tüm hakları saklıdır.

    C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow

    Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

    Beginning verification phase of system scan.
    Verification 100% complete.

    Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.
    For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
    windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline
    repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag.

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.572

    Image Version: 10.0.19042.630

    [==========================100.0%==========================] No component store corruption detected.
    The operation completed successfully.

    C:\Windows\system32> dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.19041.572

    Image Version: 10.0.19042.630

    [==========================100.0%==========================] The restore operation completed successfully.
    The operation completed successfully.

    C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow

    Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

    Beginning verification phase of system scan.
    Verification 100% complete.

    Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

    C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk /scan
    The type of the file system is NTFS.

    Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    236544 file records processed.
    File verification completed.
    Phase duration (File record verification): 1.78 seconds.
    3428 large file records processed.
    Phase duration (Orphan file record recovery): 0.00 milliseconds.
    0 bad file records processed.
    Phase duration (Bad file record checking): 1.15 milliseconds.

    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
    212 reparse records processed.
    341152 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed.
    Phase duration (Index verification): 6.36 seconds.
    0 unindexed files scanned.
    Phase duration (Orphan reconnection): 128.64 milliseconds.
    0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
    Phase duration (Orphan recovery to lost and found): 1.41 milliseconds.
    212 reparse records processed.
    Phase duration (Reparse point and Object ID verification): 2.75 milliseconds.

    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
    Security descriptor verification completed.
    Phase duration (Security descriptor verification): 21.92 milliseconds.
    52305 data files processed.
    Phase duration (Data attribute verification): 2.96 milliseconds.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    34391760 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.
    Phase duration (USN journal verification): 119.78 milliseconds.

    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required.

    249227333 KB total disk space.
    34766200 KB in 177175 files.
    117572 KB in 52306 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    347489 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    213996072 KB available on disk.

    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    62306833 total allocation units on disk.
    53499018 allocation units available on disk.
    Total duration: 8.43 seconds (8437 ms).

    C:\Windows\system32>wmic recoveros set autoreboot = false
    Updating property(s) of '\\DESKTOP-93T3EE8\ROOT\CIMV2:Win32_OSRecoveryConfiguration.Name="Microsoft Windows 10 Pro|C:\\Windows|\\Device\\Harddisk0\\Partition2"'
    Property(s) update successful.

    C:\Windows\system32>wmic recoveros set DebugInfoType = 7
    Updating property(s) of '\\DESKTOP-93T3EE8\ROOT\CIMV2:Win32_OSRecoveryConfiguration.Name="Microsoft Windows 10 Pro|C:\\Windows|\\Device\\Harddisk0\\Partition2"'
    Property(s) update successful.

    C:\Windows\system32>wmic recoveros get autoreboot
    AutoReboot
    FALSE


    C:\Windows\system32>wmic recoveros get DebugInfoType
    DebugInfoType
    7


    C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum {badmemory}

    RAM Defects
    -----------
    identifier {badmemory}

    C:\Windows\system32>

    I didnt test mempesto yet but do you think isssue is drive ?Seems like drive is not issue here .Should I downgrade drier for intel chipset ?.ıastor is causing the ram issue maybe can fix it ?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails High ram usage with non paged pool size-cmd-4.jpg   High ram usage with non paged pool size-hdd-tun-ssd-benchmark.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-hdtune_error_scan_nvme____samsung_mzvlb256.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-hdtune_health_ata_____st1000lm049-2gh1-1.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-hdtune_health_ata_____st1000lm049-2gh1.png  

    High ram usage with non paged pool size-sea-test.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-cmd-5.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-iastor.png  
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  2. Posts : 41,603
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #22

    First scannow:
    Code:
    Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files and successfully repaired them.

    Second scannow:
    Code:
    Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.



    Run HD Sentinel: (free or trial edition)
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    Hard Disk Sentinel - HDD health and temperature monitoring
    For each drive post images of these tabs into the thread:
    Overview tab
    Temperature
    SMART
    Disk performance

    Take Screenshot in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
    Take Screenshot in Windows 10


    Run Crystal Disk standard edition:
    CrystalDiskInfo – Crystal Dew World
    Post images into the thread.

    Code:
    Event[627]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:21:24.3990000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x3a35eb58 mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.
    
    Event[628]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:21:24.3990000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x5d1fa0 mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.

    Code:
    Event[631]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:22:28.5130000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x5d1f20 mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.
    
    Event[632]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:22:31.7000000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x794c mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.
    
    Event[633]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:23:21.6100000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x5d1f18 mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.

    Code:
    Event[634]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: disk
      Date: 2020-11-12T03:23:24.7970000Z
      Event ID: 153
      Task: N/A
      Level: Uyar²
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    0 diski iin (PDO ad²: \Device\00000047) 0x39d89ec1 mant²ksal blok adresindeki G/Ã i■lemi yeniden denendi.

    Code:
    Event[3121]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: hpdskflt
      Date: 2020-11-15T13:58:25.4410000Z
      Event ID: 1001
      Task: N/A
      Level: Bilgi
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Klasik
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-93T3EE8
      Description: 
    An unsupported disk adapter was found.
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  3. Posts : 24
    windows 10 x64
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Here is screenshot and txt files from two application.
    What was the codes you posted you replay ?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails High ram usage with non paged pool size-sent-4.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-sent-5.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-sent-6.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-sent-7.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-sentinel-1.png  

    High ram usage with non paged pool size-sentinel-3.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-disk-1.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-disk-2.png  
    High ram usage with non paged pool size Attached Files
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  4. Posts : 41,603
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #24

    When available post Memtest86 results (2 tests of 4 passes each = 8 passes).

    Download and install HP UEFI hardware diagnostics version 7.9:
    https://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/.../pc-diags.html

    Plan to run the testing overnight.

    Power on the computer > repetitively click F2 > run extensive > loop until error > the next day if it has made 2 or more loops > click esc > run any component test as needed (many are interactive) > take pictures with a camera or smartphone camera > post images into the thread


    Open task manager > performance tab > memory (full box) > post an image
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  5. Posts : 24
    windows 10 x64
    Thread Starter
       #25

    steve108 said:
    Please make sure you have the latest drivers and BIOS installed for your PC and see if there is any improvement after any necessary updates. Go to your motherboard or PC manufacturer website for that.
    I did uptaed bios and all driver is latest.After bios upgared non paged size down 100 mb and after 1 hour it back to 650 mb again
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  6. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #26

    extremegk said:
    I did uptaed bios and all driver is latest.After bios upgared non paged size down 100 mb and after 1 hour it back to 650 mb again
    I'm still waiting for you to do procexp request I asked for.
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  7. Posts : 24
    windows 10 x64
    Thread Starter
       #27

    extremegk said:
    Thank you for answer

    proces memoryu - Hızlı Resim
    I think here is reletad page you want .Also I already put poolman data in the photos

    poolman boot - Hızlı Resim

    .ISMC tag causing some leaks but updating didnt solve the issue .Non paged size can be go 600 above causing real fps drops for me.

    Most non paged used tag ısmc related Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology and microsoft windows

    isastorA.sys used by Intel(R) Chipset SATA/PCIe RST Premium Controlle this driver and up to date.Version 18.30.1.1138

    Also another issue when I collect the ram usage (rammap or process explorer doesnt matter still the same )in the applications tab, it does not reach the ram values ​​shown diffrence can be 2 -3 gb sometimes bigger than 4 gb.
    steve108 said:
    I'm still waiting for you to do procexp request I asked for.
    I think I posted that already here .If it s not what page you want from pro exp ?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails High ram usage with non paged pool size-proces-exp.png  
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  8. Posts : 41,603
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #28

    After completing all of the prior steps and posting images / results: Task manager, Memtest86, Process explorer

    Also run:
    Thanks for downloading Speccy
    Screenshot - e58e274fe6ad7178f8f643badaaba996 - Gyazo - RAMMap


    Download and install Windows Performance Recorder (WPR):
    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...indows-10-sdk/


    Under select additional profiles for performance recording check these boxes:
    First level triage
    CPU usage
    Pool usage
    VirtualAlloc usage

    Performance scenario: General
    Detail Level Verbose
    Logging mode: Memory

    When you see high RAM > run a 1 minute trace > zip > post a share link

    At another time record another 1 minute trace > zip > post a share link
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  9. Posts : 24
    windows 10 x64
    Thread Starter
       #29

    zbook said:
    After completing all of the prior steps and posting images / results: Task manager, Memtest86, Process explorer

    Also run:
    Thanks for downloading Speccy
    Screenshot - e58e274fe6ad7178f8f643badaaba996 - Gyazo - RAMMap


    Download and install Windows Performance Recorder (WPR):
    https://developer.microsoft.com/en-u...indows-10-sdk/




    Under select additional profiles for performance recording check these boxes:
    First level triage
    CPU usage
    Pool usage
    VirtualAlloc usage

    Performance scenario: General
    Detail Level Verbose
    Logging mode: Memory

    When you see high RAM > run a 1 minute trace > zip > post a share link

    At another time record another 1 minute trace > zip > post a share link
    downloanding wpr
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails High ram usage with non paged pool size-process.png   High ram usage with non paged pool size-rammap-specy.png  
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  10. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #30

    extremegk said:
    I think I posted that already here .If it s not what page you want from pro exp ?
    enable the nonpaged pool column and sort by it and post another screenshot since you said nonpaged pool is too high.

    Also post a clear screenshot without multiple windows overlapping each other please.
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