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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Canada
    Posts : 24
    Windows 8.1 pro
       20 Dec 2015 #21

    Kyhi said: View Post
    Actually You just confirmed what I had said...

    Run SETUP.EXE from within your CURRENT HOST OS... To REFRESH your OS and keep all programs and files
    I am sorry and you are right. I think at some point I got confused between your post and that of "Johnflavia" where he was talking about reinstalling all apps and data with a repair install. !!
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  2. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5
    Win 10
       21 Dec 2015 #22

    IronZorg, thanks but I already pieced together how to do that from earlier and other threads.

    This has worked for me on multiple PCs (running a Win 10 in-place upgrgrade from within Win 10, retaining all the old programs and files, and all had problems with SFC...did the SFC =>DISM=>SFC multiple times and couldn't get rid of the SFC errors although that worked on a different PC; this was satisfyingly easy that I did it on multiple PCs that gave SFC errors): Again, I got all this pieced together from multiple sources on Microsoft, TenForums (possibly IronZorg himself :-), and ZDnet (perhaps I should have kept better tabs on references while I pieced together a protocol, so I apologize for that):

    How to ‘upgrade’ Win10 from within Win10 (in-place upgrade):

    Microsoft has provided ‘free’automatic upgrades from Windows 7, 8.0, and 8.1 to Windows 10 through ‘windows update’ service (what ever happened to Win 9, lol). Very nice, but doing so you don’t have the ‘system disk’ you normally have to repair/re-install as you do when you purchase software. There is a neat feature of ‘in-place upgrade’ whereby if you are having some major problems with Windows 10 after some type of install. You can always go back to a prior ‘good state’ using System Restore function to an earlierperiod….I usually create a ‘restore point’ before I install software, so I can go back to the system setup point before the install should an install give me any problems….that has saved my lab computers many times when students do something,can’t figure what they did to mess things up, and then I just ‘restore’ the PC to a prior good working state (I can get by on some by setting limited access but some equipment need administrative rights I guess). This is a good feature to try first if having aproblem and you know the computer was working well yesterday or some other dayprior. If you try to use the resulting ISO to install on another PC, you will eventually need a functional license key as it will need activation; however, you do not need to activate if used as an upgrade on the same currently-windows-activated PC.

    Perhaps you have a majorproblem you can’t fix, or you simply want to have a ‘system disk’ in hand foryour new free upgraded Windows 10 operating system (OS). Sorry for the newie-esque details, but I gave this to my cousin's son to try out and wanted it to be as clear as possible to a non-PC person :-) and he was able to fix his problems.

    You will need 2programs during this upgrade:


    1.
    The Decrypter programfrom Microsoft ( http://tinyurl.com/msftdecrypter)

    2.
    An Un-Zip program that can open .7z format compression files (WinZip worked for me…if you don’t do .zip files, youcan download a freeware program from 7zip: http://www.7-zip.org/ (select the 32- or 64-bit programbased on whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor; if you don’t know, the32-bit will work both ways). Microsoft provides the Decrypter in a .7z format compression file.

    3.
    An ISO-extractor program: The same 7-zip program above also extracts the contents of ISO files (rightclick on the ISO file and select “Extract to (same folder name as the ISOfile)” in the same folder where the ISO file is located (or you can designate a different place).

    OK, you have to get 2 things first
    :

    1. Download and unpack the ‘Decrypter’ program from the Microsoft public files site (link):
    1. http://tinyurl.com/msftdecrypter (click on the file icon and you should get a window along the bottom of the screen, ‘do you want to open or save/as?.... ‘save as’ to desktop.
    2. This is a 7z compression file format, so you have to be able to open that and extract to it’s own folder on the desktop. WinZip was able to do that for me, so don’t know if you have decompression program that works on .7z files.
    3. When you extract the ‘Decrypter’ compression file you should end up witha folder that has 3 things inside: a ‘Bin’ folder, ‘decrypt.cmd’ file, and a‘ReadMe.txt’ file.
    2. Check to see if you can find the ‘install.esd’ file:
    1. Go to the C:\ prompt and see if you can see the $WINDOWS.~BT folder.
    2. If you don’t see it, chances are you don’t have view ‘hidden items’ checked. Select the ‘view’ tab at the top, look for the ‘hidden items’ and make sure it is checked (when I ‘uncheck’ hidden items, the entire folder disappears from view at the c:\ prompt).
    3. That should make $WINDOWS.~BT folder appear.
    4. Go into the $WINDOWS.~BT folder and look for the Sources folder, and the ‘install.esd’ file within the Sources folder [ C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\install.esd ]. The ‘install.esd’ file should be about 2.65 Gb.
    5. Copy and paste the ‘install.esd’ file into the unpacked Decrypter folder on the desktop.
    3. You will now have 4 items in the ‘Decrypter’ folder: the ‘Bin’ folder, ‘decrypt.cmd’ and‘ReadMe.txt’ file from the decrypter program and the ‘install.esd’ file from your C:\$WINDOWS.~BT/Sources folder (the ‘install.esd’ file MUST be in the same folder as the‘decrypt.cmd’ file and ‘Bin’ folder !).

    4. Important before Proceeding with the DECRYPT program: Turn off all anti-virus programs (Microsoft Defender – open program, select settings, and turn ‘real-time protection’ to off, any others aswell…Malwarebytes, etc).


    5. In the newly-named update folder, where you have the DECRYPT.CMD and INSTALL.ESD files, rightclick on DECRYPT.CMD and select “Run as Administrator”. That should open up a window (blue background, white text) and you will be given 4 choices:
    1. Create Full ISO with Standard install.wim
    2. Create Full ISO with Compressed install.esd
    3. Create Standard install.wim
    4. Create compressed install.esd

    6. Select the first one by placing/selecting “1” and hitting ‘enter’

    7. That should start processing and when done, you will end up with another file in the Decrypter folder: en_windows_10_pro_10586_x64_dvd.iso (this was my file name…your’s may be different based on the ‘flavor’ of Win10…home, corporate, enterprise, professional, etc).

    8. This is the ISO file program disk that contains the installation program.

    9. Place the en_windows_10_pro_10586_x64_dvd.iso file on the desktop and double-click it. You will need a program to unpack ISO filesif you don’t have one (hopefully you do).


    10. Upgrade your Win10 (problem-corrupted Win10) with Win10:
    1. Open up the desktop folder containing the contents of the extracted ISO file
    2. Right-click on the ‘SETUP’ file and ‘Run as Administrator’ (won’t work within the ISO file; all files must be extracted to a folder to run the ‘setup’).
    3. Windows 10 Setup Window will come up asking for:
    i. Get important updates or
    ii. Not right now (select this one) you can ‘windows update’ later after the install
    4. Proceed….when you get to the step that asks if you want to install all files and apps, YES, YES,
    YES (or make sure the radio boxes are checked)
    , otherwise it will do a ‘clean install’ and erase all your programs (don’t want that). You want all your files and apps (programs).

    At this point, it should be progressing through theupgrade install.

    This is only if you havealready installed Windows 10 and are experiencing some problems; this willre-install the upgrade. Normally, you don’t have an easy option to upgrade thesame operating system you are currently in, but this is a nice repair feature.

    I have upgrade-installed (or re-installed) 4 differentcomputers, and all worked fine. I’ve compiled this from posts and articles onMicrosoft, TenForums, and ZDNet…. Enjoy.

    IronZorg89 said: View Post
    Sorry for being late to give you an answer. I also saw that "kyhi" gave you instructions on how to go about a repair install and I think that's not what you want to do. If you go that route, you will have to reinstall all your data files. Now, having said that, If you do want to upgrade Windows 10 within Win 10 like I did, follow instead these instructions:
    -After burning your .iso files from the downloaded Media Creation Tool, leave the DVD inside the CD-DVD drive and don't reboot.
    -Open windows Explorer and double-click on the CD-DVD drive, which should open a new window with all the files you have just burned. Look for the setup.exe file and double-click on it. That should start the installation of Windows 10. Let it run till the end, which normally takes a while.
    -When the installation is thorough, remove the DVD from the CD-DVD drive, reboot your PC and run sfc /scannow again to see if you still have the dreadful error (0x800f081f). If not, that means the upgrade was successful. All you have to do at this point is finally to check for new Windows Updates.
    One last word of caution is to make sure you have a good system image backup before starting.
    I really hope that answers your question.
    Last edited by johnflavia; 21 Dec 2015 at 15:30.
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  3. Joined : Aug 2015
    Canada
    Posts : 24
    Windows 8.1 pro
       21 Dec 2015 #23

    johnflavia said: View Post
    IronZorg, thanks but I already pieced together how to do that from earlier and other threads.

    This has worked for me on multiple PCs (running a Win 10 in-place upgrgrade from within Win 10, retaining all the old programs and files, and all had problems with SFC...did the SFC =>DISM=>SFC multiple times and couldn't get rid of the SFC errors although that worked on a different PC; this was satisfyingly easy that I did it on multiple PCs that gave SFC errors): Again, I got all this pieced together from multiple sources on Microsoft, TenForums (possibly IronZorg himself :-), and ZDnet (perhaps I should have kept better tabs on references while I pieced together a protocol, so I apologize for that):

    How to ‘upgrade’ Win10 from within Win10 (in-place upgrade):

    Microsoft has provided ‘free’automatic upgrades from Windows 7, 8.0, and 8.1 to Windows 10 through ‘windows update’ service (what ever happened to Win 9, lol). Very nice, but doing so you don’t have the ‘system disk’ you normally have to repair/re-install as you do when you purchase software. There is a neat feature of ‘in-place upgrade’ whereby if you are having some major problems with Windows 10 after some type of install. You can always go back to a prior ‘good state’ using System Restore function to an earlierperiod….I usually create a ‘restore point’ before I install software, so I can go back to the system setup point before the install should an install give me any problems….that has saved my lab computers many times when students do something,can’t figure what they did to mess things up, and then I just ‘restore’ the PC to a prior good working state (I can get by on some by setting limited access but some equipment need administrative rights I guess). This is a good feature to try first if having aproblem and you know the computer was working well yesterday or some other dayprior. If you try to use the resulting ISO to install on another PC, you will eventually need a functional license key as it will need activation; however, you do not need to activate if used as an upgrade on the same currently-windows-activated PC.

    Perhaps you have a majorproblem you can’t fix, or you simply want to have a ‘system disk’ in hand foryour new free upgraded Windows 10 operating system (OS). Sorry for the newie-esque details, but I gave this to my cousin's son to try out and wanted it to be as clear as possible to a non-PC person :-) and he was able to fix his problems.

    You will need 2programs during this upgrade:


    1.
    The Decrypter programfrom Microsoft ( http://tinyurl.com/msftdecrypter)

    2.
    An Un-Zip program that can open .7z format compression files (WinZip worked for me…if you don’t do .zip files, youcan download a freeware program from 7zip: http://www.7-zip.org/ (select the 32- or 64-bit programbased on whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor; if you don’t know, the32-bit will work both ways). Microsoft provides the Decrypter in a .7z format compression file.

    3.
    An ISO-extractor program: The same 7-zip program above also extracts the contents of ISO files (rightclick on the ISO file and select “Extract to (same folder name as the ISOfile)” in the same folder where the ISO file is located (or you can designate a different place).

    OK, you have to get 2 things first
    :

    1. Download and unpack the ‘Decrypter’ program from the Microsoft public files site (link):
    1. http://tinyurl.com/msftdecrypter (click on the file icon and you should get a window along the bottom of the screen, ‘do you want to open or save/as?.... ‘save as’ to desktop.
    2. This is a 7z compression file format, so you have to be able to open that and extract to it’s own folder on the desktop. WinZip was able to do that for me, so don’t know if you have decompression program that works on .7z files.
    3. When you extract the ‘Decrypter’ compression file you should end up witha folder that has 3 things inside: a ‘Bin’ folder, ‘decrypt.cmd’ file, and a‘ReadMe.txt’ file.
    2. Check to see if you can find the ‘install.esd’ file:
    1. Go to the C:\ prompt and see if you can see the $WINDOWS.~BT folder.
    2. If you don’t see it, chances are you don’t have view ‘hidden items’ checked. Select the ‘view’ tab at the top, look for the ‘hidden items’ and make sure it is checked (when I ‘uncheck’ hidden items, the entire folder disappears from view at the c:\ prompt).
    3. That should make $WINDOWS.~BT folder appear.
    4. Go into the $WINDOWS.~BT folder and look for the Sources folder, and the ‘install.esd’ file within the Sources folder [ C:\$WINDOWS.~BT\Sources\install.esd ]. The ‘install.esd’ file should be about 2.65 Gb.
    5. Copy and paste the ‘install.esd’ file into the unpacked Decrypter folder on the desktop.
    3. You will now have 4 items in the ‘Decrypter’ folder: the ‘Bin’ folder, ‘decrypt.cmd’ and‘ReadMe.txt’ file from the decrypter program and the ‘install.esd’ file from your C:\$WINDOWS.~BT/Sources folder (the ‘install.esd’ file MUST be in the same folder as the‘decrypt.cmd’ file and ‘Bin’ folder !).

    4. Important before Proceeding with the DECRYPT program: Turn off all anti-virus programs (Microsoft Defender – open program, select settings, and turn ‘real-time protection’ to off, any others aswell…Malwarebytes, etc).


    5. In the newly-named update folder, where you have the DECRYPT.CMD and INSTALL.ESD files, rightclick on DECRYPT.CMD and select “Run as Administrator”. That should open up a window (blue background, white text) and you will be given 4 choices:
    1. Create Full ISO with Standard install.wim
    2. Create Full ISO with Compressed install.esd
    3. Create Standard install.wim
    4. Create compressed install.esd

    6. Select the first one by placing/selecting “1” and hitting ‘enter’

    7. That should start processing and when done, you will end up with another file in the Decrypter folder: en_windows_10_pro_10586_x64_dvd.iso (this was my file name…your’s may be different based on the ‘flavor’ of Win10…home, corporate, enterprise, professional, etc).

    8. This is the ISO file program disk that contains the installation program.

    9. Place the en_windows_10_pro_10586_x64_dvd.iso file on the desktop and double-click it. You will need a program to unpack ISO filesif you don’t have one (hopefully you do).


    10. Upgrade your Win10 (problem-corrupted Win10) with Win10:
    1. Open up the desktop folder containing the contents of the extracted ISO file
    2. Right-click on the ‘SETUP’ file and ‘Run as Administrator’ (won’t work within the ISO file; all files must be extracted to a folder to run the ‘setup’).
    3. Windows 10 Setup Window will come up asking for:
    i. Get important updates or
    ii. Not right now (select this one) you can ‘windows update’ later after the install
    4. Proceed….when you get to the step that asks if you want to install all files and apps, YES, YES,
    YES (or make sure the radio boxes are checked)
    , otherwise it will do a ‘clean install’ and erase all your programs (don’t want that). You want all your files and apps (programs).

    At this point, it should be progressing through theupgrade install.

    This is only if you havealready installed Windows 10 and are experiencing some problems; this willre-install the upgrade. Normally, you don’t have an easy option to upgrade thesame operating system you are currently in, but this is a nice repair feature.

    I have upgrade-installed (or re-installed) 4 differentcomputers, and all worked fine. I’ve compiled this from posts and articles onMicrosoft, TenForums, and ZDNet…. Enjoy.
    I am really glad that you have found your way to sort things out with regard to this problem (error message: 0x800f081f), even though it is a long and convoluted way of doing things. However, what's important here is that you have come to finally resolve the issue and that you are happy with it..
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,415
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       21 Dec 2015 #24

    IronZorg89 said: View Post
    I am really glad that you have found your way to sort things out with regard to this problem (error message: 0x800f081f), even though it is a long and convoluted way of doing things. However, what's important here is that you have come to finally resolve the issue and that you are happy with it..
    Doesn't that look just like what Kari's tutorial does? ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums Without about 90% of the manual steps?
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  5. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5
    Win 10
       21 Dec 2015 #25

    Hey, thanks. I never saw that article with all the photo images, although I know there was a tensforum article/thread that I was following along with:

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-...e-into-an-iso/#!

    and

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...9642487&auth=1

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Doesn't that look just like what Kari's tutorial does? ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums Without about 90% of the manual steps?
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,415
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       21 Dec 2015 #26

    johnflavia said: View Post
    Hey, thanks. I never saw that article with all the photo images, although I know there was a tensforum article/thread that I was following along with:

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-...e-into-an-iso/#!

    and

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...9642487&auth=1
    It's been used by thousands. It's in the tutorials thread. Much quicker and safer.
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  7. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 5
    Win 10
       21 Dec 2015 #27

    Thanks, and I'm not trying to steal anyone's thunder.... I just pieced together an entire protocol start-to-finish as some protocols would have had me 'mounting an image' or some sort that I would have to figure out how to do that first :-()

    Uhm.... can you post a link to the 'tutorials' thread? thanks in advance.

    Nevermind, I just found it...wow, this is a pretty neat resource. Sorry for being so new on this board.

    Windows 10 Tutorial Index

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    It's been used by thousands. It's in the tutorials thread. Much quicker and safer.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,415
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       21 Dec 2015 #28

    johnflavia said: View Post
    Thanks, and I'm not trying to steal anyone's thunder.... I just pieced together an entire protocol start-to-finish as some protocols would have had me 'mounting an image' or some sort that I would have to figure out how to do that first :-()

    Uhm.... can you post a link to the 'tutorials' thread? thanks in advance.

    Nevermind, I just found it...wow, this is a pretty neat resource. Sorry for being so new on this board.

    Windows 10 Tutorial Index
    it's at the top of the screen, right next to Forum

    and to "mount" an image, just open it with Explorer....
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  9. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 1,604
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       21 Dec 2015 #29

    1. The Decrypter program from Microsoft ( http://tinyurl.com/msftdecrypter)
    First and foremost that is not a Microsoft Download and the link is to version 4 - the newest version is 13

    Kari's tutorial is for creating the ISO from the windows update file
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,415
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       21 Dec 2015 #30

    Kyhi said: View Post
    First and foremost that is not a Microsoft Download and the link is to version 4 - the newest version is 13

    Kari's tutorial is for creating the ISO from the windows update file
    Kyhi, concerning the red above, are you saying @Kari's tut is incorrect for what the OP is trying to do? What are you calling a "windows update file"? It's not clear what point you are making.
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