Saving Word Documents in 365


  1. Posts : 33
    Windows 10
       #1

    Saving Word Documents in 365


    I have a recently re-installed Windows 10 with all Updates. 2004 (OS Build 1904-508)

    When deciding whether to use my Office 2010 or not, I decided to take the plunge and purchase 365 Office.

    Part of the reason for the re-install was that my Files and Folders were in a total mess and I had lost all pre-installed Folders, ie Documents etc. and Word Docs were all over the place. I backed up everything on an external hard drive.

    Firstly, I got One Drive to import my most used Word Documents, it told me they were all empty, so I had to use my external hard drive to access and try and save on my PC in Documents Folder, however, somehow this is full of my empty files.

    I have tried to read up about changing where my 365 documents are saved, but in the list of recent documents my documents are showing as saved in 3 different places, One Drive, Personal One Drive and my external drive!! Each appears to have randomly saved without any input from me! Can someone please help I want all documents save on my PC and then backed up to One Drive Folder. I need them to go into a New Folder on One drive otherwise they just mingle in with all the empty folders/files.

    Whilst writing I have no idea what the 'Personal' folder is in One Drive.
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  2. Posts : 33
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #2

    I would really appreciate some help on how to save Word 365 Documents to my Documents file on my computer, all instructions I have thus far found online, do not have the same files/options etc. as shown for me to click, and having so far been unable to actually save a new file to my Documents Folder on my computer, means I am having to hold up on making any new files as they are at present saving all over the place!
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  3. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #3

    Lou,

    According to
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...rd_quick_start
    you can just click on
    Other locations - This PC
    or
    Other locations - Browse
    to save a file on your computer.


    [The above article was reached through https://support.microsoft.com/training and https://support.microsoft.com/office...7-6d39eb364901]

    How you then arrange for backups to be on OneDrive is not something I can help with. Perhaps there's something in the tutorials Windows 10 Tutorial Index

    If you always want to save your work on your own computer then would you show me this info so I can advise you further.
    - Run C:\Windows\regedit.exe
    - Go to [paste this into its address bar] HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders
    - Post a picture of the right-hand pane [be sure to drag the column header dividers about so all the data can be seen]- Go to [paste this into its address bar] HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders
    - Post a picture of the right-hand pane [be sure to drag the column header dividers about so all the data can be seen]
    - You can then close RegEdit - nothing will have been altered, it was just a quick way of getting some info upon which to base a further response

    Denis
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  4. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #4

    About your files being empty

    When you say "empty", you mean that you have opened the files in Word and they are blank, they have no contents?

    Please would you open File explorer and go to C:\Users\%UserName% - you can paste that whole lot straight into File explorer's address bar.

    Post a screenshot of that and then have a look in each subfolder to see what's in each one. If you find a folder with empty files in it then please post a screenshot of that folder too.

    Denis
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  5. Posts : 33
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Hi, thanks for the above, I am not onto computer until Wednesday, so will do as above and let you know, did not want you to think I was ignoring your assistance, again, many thanks
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  6. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #6

    Lou,

    Okay, I'll stop crying then.

    I can see this thread getting convoluted so please can we both head any further posts with one of these -
    Issue 1 - Saving to local disk
    Issue 2 - Empty Word files
    to reduce the chances of confusion.


    Issue 1 - Saving to local disk

    One thought occurs to me. You are using the Word that you installed as part of Office 365 not the mobile version of Word that people can also put on their phones [for free]? I have never used the mobile version but I believe that it does not have an option to save to the local disk. Perhaps the screenshots dotted around in these guides can help you be certain which you are using -
    Word Mobile [MS Store]
    What is Word? - Word 365 training

    Denis
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  7. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #7

    Lou,

    Issue 1 - Saving to local disk


    I've just stumbled over these third-party apps in the MSStore so I thought it worth checking with you in case one is the app you are asking about -
    Word Editor For Windows 10 - MediaLife
    Document Editor For Windows 10 - MediaLife

    I noticed this very worrying comment in the description of the first one, "If you need to save the function, you will need to pay some fees, thank you for your support.". But I have no idea what "save the function" is intended to mean.

    Denis
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  8. Posts : 33
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    ok, so here we are again, more deeper in the mire than ever! I have been digging around and trying to sort out this problem over the weeks on and off during a bout of "clinical depression" so apologies for absence.

    It would now appear that I have been "disappearing" my own documents!!

    I never did find out why my old Folders were empty, tried alot of the above suggestions, but there was just nothing in the Folders, or I was denied access, either or both of the above.

    I have at last discovered - today - how I have made my own documents 'disappear,

    I have been a user of Word almost since it was 'invented', and have used Office 2010 for the past 10 years, I was far from being an expert but I knew my way around.

    So, when I reluctantly had to succumb to replacing 2010 I stupidly thought it would be the same but with bells and whistles. Not really thinking the basics could have changed that much. How wrong can you be.

    Microsoft in their infinite wisdom have made saving your documents totally different and as far as I can see, much more difficult.

    I had never relied on templates that much, I guess being brought up in the dark ages and therefore being able to 'touch type' typing and re-typing small amounts of text were not a problem for me, so instead of creating templates I had one document for starting with, shall we call it Christmas Food Shopping 2015, which I added too, deleted from etc. and so on. Then in 2016 I would open that document, change the year, start over again and 'save as' Christmas Food Shopping 2016. A system that has work brilliantly for me for years, yes I had 2 documents, but the older one got archived within their year.

    This year during my 'computer upgrading' and lockdown I had time to start on Christmas early, so started with Christmas Food Shopping 2019, accomplished my changes and saved as Christmas Food Shopping 2020. Usually I would print prior to saving, but I had run out of ink, so did not. Then I started to search for all the 'saved as' 2020 Christmas documents which of course had all disappeared. As always, blame Microsoft, the computer, Coronovirus, anything but myself.

    No one could help with what I had done, and only through spending hours wading through online help pages, purchasing the 365 for Dummies etc, purchasing a File recovery program £70+ all to no avail and out of no where I spotted something and did a double take!

    365 and Microsoft have decided to simplify this process but make it totally difficult to understand:

    Now, in Word 365 you open your original document, way back in 2015 per my example, make your changes and leave- do not save as a name that is relevant - leave as is so all you have is the original 2015 file name, with me? Forward a year to when you want to open the updated file, open the original file, and you now have "Versions" of the original document, so that in ten years time my document with still be called Christmas 2015, but will have 10 years of "versions"

    I suppose there is a way this would be workable, but I am sure I am not the only person who uses a date in a file name, which is now useless!!

    However, most probably most of you will, after recovering from laughter over my stupidity, will say, why did no not read the manual - now don't get me started on manuals, even if they do exist. I can find no mention of this substantial change in Microsoft 'how to's' so I guess only people new to Word are expected to use 365, so they would know no other way to use Documents.

    So, having permanently lost several hours worth of editing, not to mention the hours spent trying to find the answer to my disappearing documents I am now going to have an early night - Again many thanks for those who tried to help previously, I am afraid I truly am a lost cause - computers making live easier - I'm having none of it - life was much much simpler in the olden days. Pen, paper, write, repeat every 12 months - 1 hour at most.

    Tried to 'like' your above posts but I have been told to "spread Rep around a bit, before giving you more!!"
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  9. Posts : 16,963
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #9

    ladylou said:
    I suppose there is a way this would be workable
    Lou,

    There is a way. Well, two ways, but I already know you are not interested in the second.

    1 Don't open the old file.
    1.1 Go to it in File explorer then copy it [Ctrl-C then Ctrl-V].
    1.2 The filename will be the old filename with - Copy stuck on the end.
    1.3 Single click on the filename to select it and it will let you overwrite the filename with whatever you want.
    1.4 Open that {renamed} copy by double-clicking on it.

    That will allow your old file to continue to exist as it stands and your new file can be saved with whatever updated filename suits you.

    2 Use a template.
    2.1 You've already said you don't want to so I'll be brief.
    2.2 A template is a little more than an old copy used to start the editing job from. A template forces you to create a new name because it knows it's a template and realises that you are using it just to create a new file [with a new filename].
    2.3 When you double-click on a normal Word file, it opens it.
    - When you double-click on a template, it creates & opens a copy that you will be made to give a name to when you save it.
    - A template can also be made to create & open a copy by clicking on the File menu, New entry {visible in my previous diagram}. This route allows you to just open Word, File menu, New and get on with the job.
    2.4 It is easy to get carried away with templates. I just have one. One office I worked in had a dozen or more and we all found that so confusing that we did what you do - edit a copy of an old file instead.
    2.5 If you were to change your mind about templates, you'd be able to find help on the MS site.
    All the best,
    Denis
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