Comprehensive list of privacy settings? Also: Death to telemetry.

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  1. Posts : 8
    Windows 10 Professional x64 1909
       #1

    Comprehensive list of privacy settings? Also: Death to telemetry.


    I think I've got most of them locked down, but this is probably the 6th time I've tried to set up Windows in the past year or so -- it's a long story involving a lot of defective merchandise -- and it all blends together. It's not a particularly intuitive process either.

    Also? Death to telemetry. I can't find anything recent on how to disable it and/or uninstall components and internet searches keep sending me to this jerk's article.
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  2. Posts : 1,617
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #2

    1.
    Karath Vanashta said:
    and internet searches keep sending me to this jerk's article
    The link does not actually go to an article it simply goes to ZDNet.
    I am not honestly sure if you mean - you have assessed the article as by a jerk.
    If so IMHO it is perhaps not best practice to describe something as written by a jerk - (in public forum - even if indeed that is your opinion)

    2. However to get to the actual problem - please explain further what you mean by - along story involving a lot of defective merchandise.

    3. Also please be aware that many settings are changed to default when a new version of windows is installed from an update on your computer. However that does not account for it being the 6th time in a year

    4. Rather than me simply linking you to one Microsoft article on privacy settings, it would be of considerable help to me if you were to explain NOT what settings you have in detail, but the route to where you have changed them
    I can then point you to other possible routes, if necessary rather than listing all now

    5. For instance some are in Edge, some are in settings generally, yet more are in your Microsoft account if you use one and some are in the cloud if you use that.

    6. It maybe best of you peruse these links to start with
    Change Diagnostic Data Settings in Windows 10

    If you scroll down through that tutorial (which is of course from this site - written by Brink Admin of the site) you will find links to many other tutorials on the same broad subject and I feel certain you will find your answers on those.

    7. If you have specific questions after browsing the above, please post and I will do my best to advise.
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  3. Posts : 65
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #3

    Karath Vanashta said:
    I think I've got most of them locked down, but this is probably the 6th time I've tried to set up Windows in the past year or so -- it's a long story involving a lot of defective merchandise -- and it all blends together. It's not a particularly intuitive process either.

    Also? Death to telemetry. I can't find anything recent on how to disable it and/or uninstall components and internet searches keep sending me to this jerk's article.
    I have tried many of the programs out there but I am impressed with using this one which was just updated and is free.

    W10Privacy - Privacy made ​​easy - W10Privacy

    It helps with privacy and disables telemetry and can disable/remove apps and breaks down info for each thing it disables.
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  4. Posts : 1,617
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #4

    Tutman said:
    I have tried many of the programs out there but I am impressed with using this one which was just updated and is free.
    W10Privacy - Privacy made ​​easy - W10Privacy
    It helps with privacy and disables telemetry and can disable/remove apps and breaks down info for each thing it disables.
    Everyone must of course make their own decision, I had never heard of it, but having had a look I would not install it on my computer, without at least the precaution of a restore point and personally the latest image, which I always have any way.

    I am not saying it will not work perfectly, but I would always go for the Windows provided settings in such instances.
    10 IMHO is very sensitive to apps such as the suggested one.

    This alone would put me off using it.
    It says on the link
    The by default highly questionable set options concerning privacy and data protection in Windows 10 brought me to the idea to develop this program. Microsoft generously enables everybody to change the concerning settings, but hides them in countless menus, where a normal user does not want to search for!
    so it appears it only does what can be done by Microsoft provided settings, but the writer then says
    W10Privacy is certainly no programming masterpiece, but it fulfills my intended purpose. The software is still in an early development phase, requests are welcome and may be included in future releases!
    and the only details I can see of who wrote the app either in German with a simple contact form OR there is this on the site
    Virus? - W10Privacy

    In summary the choice of whether trust the app, not from a malware content aspect, but from the health of your system aspect must as I said be your choice.

    If you do think of using it I would see this review by Martin Brinkmann
    Comparison of Windows 10 Privacy tools - gHacks Tech News

    Quoted from the link
    W10 Privacy offers no backup and restore functionality. This means that you need to create a System Restore point or other type of backup manually before you use it to modify system settings.

    What you can do however is save the program's own configuration. If you do that you may load them again at a later point in time.
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  5. Posts : 6,958
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #5

    I've used that for some time. (W10Privacy). I even used it to update windows (I'm using something else to update currently)

    Using applications to stop telemetry

    Comparison of Windows 10 Privacy tools - gHacks Tech News

    If you go too far with some of these tools cumulative updates might fail.
    Last edited by Callender; 20 Apr 2020 at 19:17. Reason: spelling
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  6. Posts : 1,617
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #6

    I agree with :
    If you go too far with some of these tools cumulative updates might fail
    Callender said:
    Comparison of Windows 10 Privacy tools - gHacks Tech News

    If you go too far with some of these tools cumulative updates might fail.
    and as I posted from the same link gHacks - RP
    and the inexperienced may not realise the need for such, until it is possibly too late.
    IMHO a RP and a system image is the best way as I mentioned.
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  7. Posts : 65
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #7

    Macboatmaster said:
    Everyone must of course make their own decision, I had never heard of it, but having had a look I would not install it on my computer, without at least the precaution of a restore point and personally the latest image, which I always have any way.

    I am not saying it will not work perfectly, but I would always go for the Windows provided settings in such instances.
    10 IMHO is very sensitive to apps such as the suggested one.

    This alone would put me off using it.
    It says on the link


    so it appears it only does what can be done by Microsoft provided settings, but the writer then says


    and the only details I can see of who wrote the app either in German with a simple contact form OR there is this on the site
    Virus? - W10Privacy

    In summary the choice of whether trust the app, not from a malware content aspect, but from the health of your system aspect must as I said be your choice.

    If you do think of using it I would see this review by Martin Brinkmann
    Comparison of Windows 10 Privacy tools - gHacks Tech News

    Quoted from the link
    I would not recommend it if it were not safe. It is very descriptive on each check mark and warns you if there could be trouble. And it has not broken anything as long you don't use any of the red lined items.
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  8. Posts : 1,617
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #8

    Tutman said:
    I would not recommend it if it were not safe. It is very descriptive on each check mark and warns you if there could be trouble. And it has not broken anything as long you don't use any of the red lined items.
    I am sure you would not - of course
    I still think my note of caution was appropriate

    As I said
    Everyone must of course make their own decision, I had never heard of it, but having had a look I would not install it on my computer, without at least the precaution of a restore point and personally the latest image, which I always have any way.
    I then before sending my post found the review by Brinkmann on the link I posted on post 4 and seeing as he also mentioned that caution - I consider it vital that in case of Karath Vanashta being unaware of such precautions, he is warned.

    I personally having looked at the site in greater detail, although not having tried the app on my test manchine, still would not use it.
    I prefer the totally trustworthy means provided by Microsoft.

    However as I said before , everyone makes their own choice.
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  9. Posts : 5,468
    Windows 11 Home
       #9

    Macboatmaster said:
    I prefer the totally trustworthy means provided by Microsoft.
    About half of the privacy settings those apps change can be done within Windows Settings, but they are all over the place. But even doing them using just Windows Settings can break a lot of un-related stuff. They are there, because people wanted to disable them and because of EU, but they still break some functionality.
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  10. Posts : 1,617
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #10

    1. I agree, I think I am right in saying that some of the recent available changes to the Privacy settings were brought about following a case in The Netherlands and some more recent elsewhere.
    Microsoft’s Windows 10 breaches privacy law, says Dutch DPA – TechCrunch

    https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-gb/privacystatement

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...id=EdgePrivacy

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-in-windows-10
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...ivacy-settings


    2. My own opinion is still that I would rather change what I can and leave what I cannot change from within Windows, rather than running a third part app.
    I stress however as I said - each must make his own choice.

    3. I have seen so many windows 10 systems with problems, many of which appear on all the evidence available to be down to a 3rd party app that makes changes to the system, that I have always stayed totally away from them.

    4. The only time I would consider using one, is IF I could check that it ONLY made the same change across all aspects of the system, that clicking on the button in settings etc to turn ON to OFF - in an aspect of privacy, did.

    5. I would never be able to check such, partly due to my limitations of knowledge in that area, but also of course, because it would need - GP checking, registry checking on possibly many entries - sub keys, values etc., Services checking and that maybe just for starters.

    6. I have studied the subject at length and whilst I am not by any means an expert - what many people do not know is that
    Windows 10 sends to Microsoft via Edge and possibly not only via the use of Edge
    The hardware UUID of the device to Microsoft
    UUID
    cmd prompt admin
    wmic csproduct get UUID

    powershell
    (Get-CimInstance -Class Win32_ComputerSystemProduct).UUID

    and if you are using a Windows phone it sends the IMEI
    Network capabilities and connection data such as the device’s IP address, mobile network (including IMEI and mobile operator), and whether the device is connected to a free or paid network.

    details of such are in the Privacy link above.

    8. I thought people browsing the topic may find some of the above information helpful - to see more closely what is actually recorded.
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