Clean install W10 Home version 1909 64 bit Part Deux

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  1. Posts : 22
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    Clean install W10 Home version 1909 64 bit Part Deux


    Read taid's post about installing 1909 disconnected. My experience was similar. Finished the install with a local logon account, and made a Macrium image. Defragged. Configured partitions. Everything but the network working. This Dell N5050 laptop was originally updated from Win7 and had no black screen issues and full network access. This clean install is just to clear out the useless cruff.

    However when I connected the 'clean' install to the internet and got the “Let’s Finish Setting Up” message, it was shortly followed by a black screen. Restored the Macrium image and got the same result again after connecting to the internet. Did a fresh install with network connected and logged on with a Microsoft account - and one window later - black screen. You can wait an hour, but nothing happens. The Macrium image is only 8 GB, so this install is as basic as it gets. Nothing trick and no additional programs.

    So I am stuck - either a local logon with no internet - which works just fine - or a brick with a black screen stuck half way through install.

    Any suggestions welcome.

    TIA
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  2. Posts : 30,268
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
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    HI Tranas

    I think when you go online MS is helping you by updating the drivers and this isn't going well.

    I would restore your Macrium Image but then I would apply this registry edit, option 2 to block driver updates

    Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10

    before I went online.

    As you can't go online you will need to download registry edit on another machine and sneaker net it onto the Dell.

    Did you Image machine before you clean installed it?


    Ken
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  3. Posts : 22
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    Thread Starter
       #3

    Caledon Ken said:

    Did you Image machine before you clean installed it?


    Ken
    Thanks Ken

    No. No image of the original install - it was one of those everything on C: configurations. Too large.
    Your suggestion makes sense. Will give a try.

    I do however, find it odd that the update from 7 (using the same USB as the clean install) had no such issue.

    Tranas
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  4. Posts : 30,268
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #4

    This driver issue is a crazy one.

    When you did update I believe it looked at drivers you had and then updated those if an update was available.


    With a clean there is no base and Windows loads what it thinks is best.
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  5. Posts : 22
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    Thread Starter
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    Ken

    Just to be sure - you link states that "This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable including driver updates in Windows Update in Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Eduction edtions."

    I am dealing with Home - not with one of the above. The reg file seems to execute in Home as described, but if it actually changes the registry is not clear.

    Misprint??

    Tranas
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  6. Posts : 30,268
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
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    Never noticed that, will have to get clarification from Brink.

    I'm pretty sure I've used in the past, not sure when that sentence was added.
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #7

    This link has additional methods to block the upgrade of a specific device driver:

    Prevent Windows Update from Updating Specific Device Driver
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  8. Posts : 30,268
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #8

    So I got it clarified, does not work.

    Thanks for bringing to my attention.

    Want to look at vendor site.
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  9. Posts : 30,268
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Version 23H2
       #9

    What about heading to Dell and getting their video driver from April 8, 2016.

    Apply that and ensure by checking device manager that it installed. Then go online.

    https://www.dell.com/support/home/is...-n5050/drivers

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  10. Posts : 22
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    Thread Starter
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    zbook said:
    This link has additional methods to block the upgrade of a specific device driver:

    Prevent Windows Update from Updating Specific Device Driver
    Thanks zbook and Ken,

    That was pretty much the ticket. Edited the sample reg file with the correct Device ID and the registry entry worked as described. Same goes for removal.

    Ken's observation that 1909 installs a generic M$ driver was correct, and that driver works for now - can be changed whenever there is a stable image of the install. Chose not to update video at this point as there is theoretically no 'Win10 compatible' driver available.

    So in essence, the sequence to get a functional 1909 installation is -

    1. Install Win10 disconnected from the network;
    2. determine video device ID;
    3. edit and save Enable_DeviceInstall_Restrictions.reg and open in Registry Editor;
    4. Restart;
    5. connect to the network and allow Win10 install to complete.

    Appreciate the assistance!
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