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  1.    06 Feb 2017 #1
    Join Date : Feb 2017
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10

    Combination of problems


    Hi there. To start from the begining...
    Had an issue with PC few months ago, some really helpful guy,via other forum, told me my HDD is dying and it needs to be replaced. It can last 2 days or 2 years - was his words. I didnt change HDD and PC was working fine after a restart.

    Now my PC started rebooting often, esp.in games. Thought it was overheating issue - was never cleaned. Temperature was around 90C for cpu. (Btw its Dell Inspiron 1750).
    Tried to clean it with bit of compressed air through that plastic grill in the bottom.
    Since then my usbs aint working - keyboard/mouse dont respond.
    After a while I also got 4 beeps on the startup, saw online its memory issue, so I reseated it.
    After reseating I tried to login again; got to the password part. Every time I touch trackpad I get bdos error. I wanted to reset windows again to keep the data, but it prompts me for a password and it doesnt offer onscreen keyboard. (Trackpad doesnt cause bdos in troubleshoot).
    Im running out of ideas :/
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  2.    06 Feb 2017 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2016
    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
    Posts : 4,005
    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    Welcome to the TenForums @Zhejr

    Interesting that touching trackpad kills machine. I'm going to suggest that blowing compressed air in has caused something to move into machine and may be causing a short. That or the compressed air managed to dislocate a cable. You are really fortunate as it takes two screws to remove hard drive which you can connect to another device and get your data. You can also run chkdsk on other machine against this drive.

    Next I would take out memory again, before doing so make sure you are grounded, and check your reseating. Power on and enter BIOS and touch touchpad. If it crashes or shuts off do not power on again.

    Post back and someone will suggest next steps.
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  3.    07 Feb 2017 #3
    Join Date : Feb 2017
    Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Hi Ken, thanks for the welcome.
    Yeah, removing hdd went smoothly. Given it is SATA drive I guess I could just hook it to a friend's desktop to backup my data.

    Not sure about next steps tho...
    Return that old hdd in laptop and than do the reseating/BIOS thing you have said?

    I suppose I can I do it other way around?
    Reseating -> BIOS -> if it crashes go and backup my data?
    Thanks
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  4.    07 Feb 2017 #4
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    Thread Starter

    By the way, few months ago HDD had like <1% of bad sectors.
    However this time I think HDD isnt causing all the issues, but memory, that USB issue and BDOS too.
    I got memory writing/reading fail msg once. It was before my attempt to clean it with air. USB issue came right after I cleaned it with air, and trackpad bdos came after my 20 reboots and attempts to fix usb.
    Even now with all that I could login to windows if only I had something to write my password with. But without usbs and trackpad I just cant do it
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  5.    07 Feb 2017 #5
    Join Date : Oct 2016
    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
    Posts : 4,005
    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    Pull your drive, its two screws. Reseat your memory, one screw. Boot with no HDD. Test touchpad. By goal is to always protect data. Some I can't replace.

    If things are happening electrically in device you don't need a blow off that corrupts drive.

    If you think memory is suspect you could look at replacing. Memory is way cheaper than it use to be and you may even have an old device around that you can try borrowing from. Match type. Otherwise see if repair shop has some they could lend / sell just as a test. People are always upgrading. I keep old memory for emergencies like this.
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  6.    07 Feb 2017 #6
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    Thread Starter

    Did it without hdd, trackpad didn't cause any issues.
    Also I believe that even with hdd inserted trackpad doesn't cause issue in troubleshooting mode. But it causes bsod in normal and safe mode too.
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  7.    07 Feb 2017 #7
    Join Date : Feb 2017
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    Thread Starter

    Thing is I can not use troubleshooting to do a windows reset.
    -usbs not working (for external keyboard I usually use)
    -some of laptop's keyboard buttons don't work and I need them to enter password to reset windows

    I am thinking of selling the machine for like 200 euros, but I think all these small issues will make it's price lower. A friend advised me not to upgrade laptops like ever, but I disagree
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  8.    07 Feb 2017 #8
    Join Date : Oct 2016
    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
    Posts : 4,005
    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    If you have access to another machine create a boot disk with memtest86.

    MemTest86+ - Test RAM

    Test your memory.

    If you have access to another Win 10 machine create a media key and boot from it to perform trouble shooting. When it boots you have to get past first screen, then click repair in lower left corner.

    This tutorial walks you through creating key.

    Windows 10 - Clean Install

    If you don't have access to 10 machine create ISO.
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  9.    08 Feb 2017 #9
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    Thread Starter

    Did data backup, scanned HDD, got report "some issues were found and fixed... you can now use your hardware" or something like that.
    Imma do the memory scan, burned whole UBCD to a CD, cuz I wasn't sure which memtest to DL for CD burning. Will tell you the results asap
    Thanks
    Last edited by Zhejr; 09 Feb 2017 at 06:07.
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  10.    09 Feb 2017 #10
    Join Date : Feb 2017
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    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Any advise on burning ISO to DVD? I don't have enough space.
    All the tutorials are on how to create boot media/ ISO but on USB, which I can\t use I think
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