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  1.    16 Oct 2014 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    For "Non computer Geeks" working every day in an office with Windows 7 (or even Windows XP) the whole navigation stuff on Windows 8 was nightmare -- with the charms stuff and all sorts of "effects" if they pointed their mouse at the screen.
    I can't say I ever really tried 8 in any depth (driver issues BSOD etc) but 8.1 is terrific. Appreciate what you say about an office/workplace environment where functionality is paramount. One of the better features of W10 for me is the way in which the snipping tool works on pdf's. On 8.1 it was a bit messy.
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  2.    16 Oct 2014 #22
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
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    Some people simply won't be happy with Windows as long as there is any vestige of a touch interface present in the OS (whether or not it's something they can disable or not even see, they somehow "know" it's there, and it eats at their soul).

    This is the Princess and the Pea syndrome. Just the idea that the OS might have something they don't want is galling... nevermind the fact that Windows has had stuff they didn't use since it was first created. Microsoft could take all the metro stuff out completely, but tell people it's still there and the complaints would still come in about how terrible it is.
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  3.    16 Oct 2014 #23

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    That's the whole point of the technical feedback so Ms can "adjust" things before release - they'd be better though at reading these forums than trawling through 100,000's of email etc.

    I'm sure the menu will be customisable and a load of other improvements too -- Ms HAVE to get this one right.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Your optimism in MS is far greater than mine, I think they fool people into thinking their feedback is valuable, but in the end, really just ignore it.

    I also think that if they are going with this unified Windows approach, that they have already decided that this is how it will be, and minor changes will only come about.
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  4.    16 Oct 2014 #24
    Join Date : Oct 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Some people simply won't be happy with Windows as long as there is any vestige of a touch interface present in the OS (whether or not it's something they can disable or not even see, they somehow "know" it's there, and it eats at their soul).

    This is the Princess and the Pea syndrome. Just the idea that the OS might have something they don't want is galling... nevermind the fact that Windows has had stuff they didn't use since it was first created. Microsoft could take all the metro stuff out completely, but tell people it's still there and the complaints would still come in about how terrible it is.
    Best idea you have had. Make Metro stuff uninstalable in add remove features in OS set up. Windows needs to have a desktop mode and a tablet mode. What we need are choices to keep everyone happy. Simple as that.
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  5.    16 Oct 2014 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
    Best idea you have had. Make Metro stuff uninstalable in add remove features in OS set up. Windows needs to have a desktop mode and a tablet mode. What we need are choices to keep everyone happy. Simple as that.
    There probably also needs to be an "Auto" mode for people who have those convertible/hybrid machines.

    That should "cover all bases".
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  6.    16 Oct 2014 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I would really like to be able to turn the transparency OFF.
    I run:

    WinAero: Opaque Taskbar for Windows 8 and Windows 10
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  7.    17 Oct 2014 #27
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    Windows 10 1607

    The Start Menu is a good step towards putting back some of the stuff Microsoft removed. Even if I hardly ever go there to find that obscure thing I need once in a while, at least it's there for when I do.
    BUT instead of removing the needless complexity of the Windows 7 Start Menu, and reverting to the XP style, nice and simple, the Windows 10 version has the 'all apps' area and doesn't cascade.
    That makes it extremely vertical, and scrolling up and down will, I think, be a nuisance if one needs to drill down a few levels. At some point users are going to say, Isn't there a better way, like if the subfolders opened up at the side...
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  8.    17 Oct 2014 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Normally I don't like running third party programs like that, but I think I'll give this one a try, thanks for the link. < wish we had the little thumb's up smiley, I like it better.
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  9.    17 Oct 2014 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
    Best idea you have had. Make Metro stuff uninstalable in add remove features in OS set up. Windows needs to have a desktop mode and a tablet mode. What we need are choices to keep everyone happy. Simple as that.
    Lol, sure... The problem with that suggestion is that Win32 (and thus the desktop) is dead. It is on its way out, with each new release of Windows Metro will subsume more and more of its functionality until at some point it will be on life support.

    Right now, Metro is a subsystem of Win32, in the not so distant future that will be reversed.
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  10.    17 Oct 2014 #30

    I think the speed alone is compelling and it has kept me from going back to 7 for over a week now.

    Now if they will enrich the interface by reconsidering Aero and gadgets, keep the App interference minimized....
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