W10 Home vs. Pro registry-v. 22H2 build 19045.2311 BOTH

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  1. Posts : 89
    W10-64 Pro
       #1

    W10 Home vs. Pro registry-v. 22H2 build 19045.2311 BOTH


    Having problems with a W10 Home machine. It's a local account but cannot access netplwiz (no option to turn off credential requirements). It has the regedit plug in installed. Found a solution to the problem involving certain keys. The solution obviously relates to Pro because it involves regedit.

    The question is, can/should I edit the Home machine registry to match the Pro registry or would that be insane? According to what I see, Pro machine has these keys (registry strings (REG_SZ) named DefaultUserName and DefaultPassword) but Home machine doesn't. In other words, the fix (for PRO) is in the screen shot while the 2 required keys are not in the HOME registry. Can I put 'em in the Home Registry and enjoy the fix?
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    Last edited by WacoJohn; 18 Nov 2022 at 10:56. Reason: trhying to imbed screenshot
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  2. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #2

    "no option to turn off credential requirements" is addressed in the relevant TenForumsTutorial. It tells you to use another Tutorial first.
    So do this one
    Enable or Disable Passwordless Sign-in - TenForumsTutorials
    and then go into the main tutorial
    Sign in User Account Automatically - TenForumsTutorials


    "The solution obviously relates to Pro because it involves regedit."
    Both Home & Pro have RegEdit.


    WacoJohn said:
    The question is, can/should I edit the Home machine registry to match the Pro registry or would that be insane?
    It would certainly be less sane than doing what the tutorials say.



    All the best,
    Denis
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  3. Posts : 14,020
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #3

    DO NOT merge the 2 Registries. Dual-booting requires each install of Windows to have their own. I had to fix a computer during the summer that had 2 users but the owner had made the names exactly the same, could not remove one as the files for both were in C:\Users\JoeBloke, no differentiation one from the other, required clean install. And Regedit does work in either Home or Pro but Pro may have GPEDIT [Group Policy Editor] set to prevent user access to many settings while Home doesn't have GPEDIT unless changed.
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  4. Posts : 89
    W10-64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Thank you immensely. The first link seems to refer to MS accounts. All my machines are LOCAL. The second link doesn't seem to be exclusive of either type. Guess I just go with the 2nd one???

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    Berton said:
    DO NOT merge the 2 Registries. Dual-booting requires each install of Windows to have their own. I had to fix a computer during the summer that had 2 users but the owner had made the names exactly the same, could not remove one as the files for both were in C:\Users\JoeBloke, no differentiation one from the other, required clean install. And Regedit does work in either Home or Pro but Pro may have GPEDIT [Group Policy Editor] set to prevent user access to many settings while Home doesn't have GPEDIT unless changed.
    Thank you. There will be no registry editing. You are correct ... regedit is native to both HOME and Pro. I was thinking of GPEDIT.MSC. It can be added to HOME. My apologies.
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  5. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #5

    WacoJohn said:
    ... no option to turn off credential requirements ...
    WacoJohn said:
    The first link seems to refer to MS accounts. All my machines are LOCAL.
    ... The second link doesn't seem to be exclusive of either type. Guess I just go with the 2nd one???
    If, as I think you mean, you do not have the checkbox in the NetPlWiz dialog then you need to use the first tutorial first whichever type of user account you have.
    - I think you will need Option 2 of the first tutorial to disable passwordless sign-in. That's what I used. I also normally use Local user accounts.

    The normal command for running NetPlWiz is
    Code:
    C:\Windows\System32\Netplwiz.exe
    Somebody claimed that the alternative start method has a better chance of having the checkbox appear
    Code:
    C:\Windows\System32\control.exe userpasswords2


    WacoJohn said:
    I was thinking of GPEDIT.MSC. It can be added to HOME.
    In Home, it only acts as a viewer not a method of changing anything.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  6. Posts : 89
    W10-64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #6

    OK ... using the first LINK you suggested, OPTION 2, "Enable or Disable Passwordless Sign-in for Microsoft Accounts using a REG file" I merged the Turn ON Passwordless .... download, rebooted, and came up with a login screen .. User and Password. Looks like it did not turn on. For the heck of it, merged Turn OFF download, rebooted, and got a pw login screen again. Netplwiz comes up with no check box ... either way.

    Tried using C:\Windows\System32\control.exe userpasswords2 ... with no difference.
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  7. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #7

    John,

    WacoJohn said:
    OK ... using the first LINK you suggested, OPTION 2, "Enable or Disable Passwordless Sign-in for Microsoft Accounts using a REG file" I merged the Turn ON Passwordless ....
    ...
    merged Turn OFF download, rebooted, and got a pw login screen again.
    It was turning it off that you needed to do so your second action was correct - Option 2 Step 3.
    The Registry key
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\PasswordLess\Device
    should now contain the entry
    DevicePasswordLessBuildVersion
    with a Data of zero.
    W10 Home vs. Pro registry-v. 22H2 build 19045.2311 BOTH-passwordless-entry.png


    WacoJohn said:
    Netplwiz comes up with no check box ... either way.
    I think you should ask for help in the tutorial thread itself.
    Sign in User Account Automatically - TenForumsTutorials
    I have never had any problems with this and that tutorial author, Brink, has seen lots of reports of problems so might well be able to help you.
    Include the fact that you have checked that DevicePasswordLessBuildVersion entry or somebody will just reply telling you to.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  8. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #8

    WacoJohn said:
    .... Netplwiz comes up with no check box ... either way. .
    It should be as simple as just changing the value of DevicePasswordLessBuildVersion from 2 to 0 then closing and reopening Netplwiz.

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  9. Posts : 89
    W10-64 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #9

    It should be as simple as just changing the value of DevicePasswordLessBuildVersion from 2 to 0 then closing and reopening Netplwiz.
    That did it!! THANK YOU!!!
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  10. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #10

    WacoJohn said:
    That did it!! THANK YOU!!!
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