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  1.    24 Sep 2017 #1
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    Windows 10 Automatic Driver Updates Hell Corner


    So it's been a month that i have been having a glitching windows that i have been clueless at first of why it is doing that , been having "Stub" errors on running anything that requires administrative rights from first go then works from the second go , at first received error I lose Cortana , Search capability and the ability to type in windows settings and apps . Unlike most who probably would reinstall windows just like that and wonder about people who don't , you should know that in this world there are people who install zillions of programs and apps for work and entertainment that would take them months of precious free time to get everything back in place again .

    So my first attempts to fix this were recommendations by Microsoft themselves all over the internet to use SFC and Dism which did nothing really , up till i came across a Youtube video that its owner related most "Stub" errors to Nvidia drivers , I went on to check my driver in device manager only to find its version number changed , I know my device version number because it is my favorite version , it runs everything faster than any other version . So I just installed it back again and wooo all "Stub" errors were gone !

    Happy with my finding I went on to continue with my life only to find "Stub" errors coming back later making me believe its not a driver problem , but checking again and yes , pretty windows managed to reinstall its glitchy driver again silently ...

    (-Edit 1- Yes I did attempt rolling driver back , it still does update again later .)

    So here is what the internet offered me and here is how it failed miserably and driver kept coming back :

    1 - Use : Control Panel > System Properties > Hardware > Device Installation Settings > No (Your Device Might not work as expected) -- Now this option sweet people who recommend it doesn't do any bloody thing , its like microsoft just printed a useless radio button in a form that isn't really linked to anything in the system .

    2 - Use : Registry Setting HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate"ExcludeWUDriversInQ ualityUpdate"=dword:00000001 -- Yep , vanilla , does nothing .

    3 - Use : wushowhide.diagcab to find and hide the update -- Showed me all sorts of blahs but that glitchy driver .

    4 - Use : pnputil.exe -e to list updating driver > pnputil.exe -d Oem#.inf to delete it -- Redownloads faster than you take it out , showing that at windows updates . (And Nope , you can't hide it still while it's deleted)

    5 - Upgrade : to "Windows Pro" as drivers update is mandatory in home version while not in Pro+ versions -- Did that hoping that Microsoft take up their ransom and let me be but still Device Installation Settings > No (Your Device Might not work as expected) remained as useless as can be .

    6 - Use : Group Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > System > Device Installation > Device Installation Restrictions > Prevent installation of devices that match any of these device ids , and throwing in all hardware ids of the GPU -- The silent installation of the glitchy updated driver manages to uninstall mine first then failing to install new driver and continues to install other related softwares and services and "Stub" errors keep coming back again , surprisingly too I found that there are like gaps in times where group policy may not apply and I or windows update may manage to install the driver fully (Takes few successive trials) .

    7 - Use : Group Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Updates > Do not include drivers with windows update -- Vanilla , driver keep installing and showing it at windows update .

    8 - Use : Group Policy > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Updates > Configure automatic updates > 3 Auto download and notify me to install -- Nope , and by the way I believe these settings are not even integrated in Windows 10 but they wouldn't mention on group policy so it wouldn't affect the marketing of it since its their latest product .

    9 - Set : Metered Connection -- Wait you want me to give up on updates as a whole ??

    10 - Unplug : from internet while playing -- Seriously ??

    11 - Change : Driver Version Number -- If I do it in "inf" pre-installation the setup errors out the file have been tampered with , if i do it in registry later , changes don't reflect in Device Manager and yet driver keeps updating .
    So bottom line : Yea , you do not own your laptop any more and now if Microsoft wants you to believe its upgrade time they would just throw few drivers on you that would render your system glitchy or like a snail and you can't really do much about it and surprisingly forums tend to copy solution from across ancient platforms believing they all may apply to Windows 10 while they don't , so if you can read this STOP it , Windows 10 is a B!%@#

    (-Edit 2- Apparently Microsoft acknowledges Windows Updates Drivers were all messed up in all previous versions to 1607 )
    Windws updatesWindows 10, version 1607, provides administrators with increased control over updates by changing the update deferral increment from weeks to days. Other changes:


    • Quality Updates can be deferred up to 30 days and paused for 35 days
    • Feature Updates can be deferred up to 180 days and paused for 60 days
    • Update deferrals can be applied to both Current Branch (CB) and Current Branch for Business (CBB)
    • Drivers can be excluded from updates ****
    Although considering I was on that build 14393 which is a valid 16xx version it still didn't work for me , now that I upgraded to build 15063 version 1703 solutions up starting 4 are now working so meh apparently its 2+ years already and Windows 10 is still a work in progress . This kinda explains how the "Windows Live" term originated in their minds . 8)
    Last edited by nIGHTmAYOR; 25 Sep 2017 at 06:25.
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  2.    24 Sep 2017 #2
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    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    If you wish, if disabling (hiding) a specific update hasn't worked for you, you can disable all driver updates.

    Please see the Tutorial section. There's one there on that.
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  3.    24 Sep 2017 #3
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    If you mean this : Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10 Windows 10 Windows Update Activation Tutorials all methods showing are already listed in my attempts , if not then its non applicable to my version , so yes , nothing really works .
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  4.    24 Sep 2017 #4
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    Trnava
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    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    Have you tried rolling back the driver? That usually works.
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  5.    24 Sep 2017 #5
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    updates again a day later , bummer I should have listed that !
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  6.    24 Sep 2017 #6
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    Stop automatic driver updates on Windows 10 | Windows Server content from SuperSite for Windows
    How to disable automatic device driver updates in Windows 10 - TechRepublic
    Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10 Windows 10 Windows Update Activation Tutorials

    - you've probably seen and/or tried these.

    I think you're saying the problem is with Nvidia.. suggest you look at the options for that:
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    I.e. the updates AREN'T being delivered by Windows update, so the above methods on drivers won't have any effect
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  7.    24 Sep 2017 #7
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    Not only have I seen or tried , I have strong doubts they were copied without checking if they as solutions do work for windows 10 , for instance : http://winsupersite.com/site-files/w...nstallhero.png this window is often shown in tutorials where i believe it is copied from Windows 8.1 form , while actual Windows 10 form looks like this : https://images.scdn8.secure.raxcdn.c...s-expected.jpg

    also my problem isn't Nvidia carrying out the update , it's Windows Update pushing it in on me , and silently installing it and shows an entry of attempt in Updates History .
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  8.    24 Sep 2017 #8
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    Trnava
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    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    You can cripple Windows Update, that will prevent installing drivers as well.

    Like by disabling "Network List Service" or even "Network Location Awareness".

    Of course, you need to clean Update's cache to prevent it from being installed from there.
    Code:
    del "%WINDIR%\Installer\$PatchCache$" /s /f /q
    del "%WINDIR%\SoftwareDistribution" /s /f /q
    del "%WINDIR%\WinSxS\Backup" /s /f /q
    Quote Originally Posted by nIGHTmAYOR View Post
    Unlike most who probably would reinstall windows just like that and wonder about people who don't , you should know that in this world there are people who install zillions of programs and apps for work and entertainment that would take them months of precious free time to get everything back in place again .
    By reinstalling, all of your programs should remain installed, it should just fix Windows.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
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  9.    24 Sep 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    You can cripple Windows Update, that will prevent installing drivers as well.

    Like by disabling "Network List Service" or even "Network Location Awareness".

    Of course, you need to clean Update's cache to prevent it from being installed from there.
    Code:
    del "%WINDIR%\Installer\$PatchCache$" /s /f /q
    del "%WINDIR%\SoftwareDistribution" /s /f /q
    del "%WINDIR%\WinSxS\Backup" /s /f /q

    By reinstalling, all of your programs should remain installed, it should just fix Windows.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
    Well like I mentioned up there is a possible less chaotic way which would lead to same effect you are attempting which is setting connection as metered , it stops updates but , is this really how things should go , i mean we need updates , but we need control over which .
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  10.    24 Sep 2017 #10
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    Ok, so set your updates to Notify - that means you get notification in your action centre, then you click on the notification, and Settings opens and you can see what the updates are.
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