Ok to remove built-in Lenovo laptop battery?

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  1. Posts : 6,526
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #41

    Try3 said:
    My Lenovo loses 2% of its battery charge every day whilst shutdown.
    I shut down by using
    Code:
    shutdown.exe /s /t 0 /f



    Denis
    You can replace shutdown.exe /s /t 0 by shutdown.exe /p
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  2. Posts : 6,970
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #42

    Callender said:
    I always leave the charger plugged in and the battery meter currently reports 98% charged but as far as i can remember it's always 100% charged when I switch on if powered off overnight but with the charger plugged in.

    You can try a full shut down by pressing and holding the Shift key on your keyboard while you click the "Shut Down" then see if the battery still discharges a few percent.
    So I've just checked after an overnight shutdown and sure enough battery charge is 98%. I'd never noticed this before.

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  3. Posts : 442
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       #43

    Try3 said:
    Might I suggest only waiting one month?
    If Lenovo support are correct then there'll still be charge left after one month but would not be after four.

    I'll look forward to seeing your results.
    Apart from the Lenovo I mentioned before, I don't have a computer that's off for long enough to do such tests.
    [Apart from a Chuwi but it lies about its state of charge all the time - it constantly claims its battery has 150% of its design charge level.]


    Merry Christmas,
    Denis

    Oh, and thanks for the rep.
    If I understand what Lenovo support was saying correctly, they were talking about an internal battery that was still installed. There seem to be processes still going on in the laptop even when it's shut down. I even noticed that when it's shut down, I can press the space bar and then a battery symbol appears on the screen for about 3 seconds showing what the battery level is. I think I've even seen this pop up even when I don't press anything. By removing the battery, I should be able to prevent the depletion of the battery in storage. My Dell laptop's battery doesn't run down when not installed, but it's easily removable. I wish they all were.
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  4. Posts : 17,040
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #44

    "I can press the space bar and then a battery symbol appears on the screen for about 3 seconds showing what the battery level is"

    That's set or unset in the Bios.


    Denis
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  5. Posts : 442
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       #45

    Try3 said:
    "I can press the space bar and then a battery symbol appears on the screen for about 3 seconds showing what the battery level is"

    That's set or unset in the Bios.


    Denis
    I see.
    Well, since I already went through the trouble of removing the battery, I'll just leave it out for now and then I'll probably reinstall it in a few months to see if it retained it's charge, then change the bios to make it stop draining the battery when shut down, and then wait awhile to see what happens (or doesn't happen). If all goes well at that time, I'll leave the battery installed.
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  6. Posts : 17,040
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #46

    Delly10 said:
    I'll probably reinstall it in a few months to see if it retained it's charge
    Again, I think a single month would avoid being too late.
    If "a few months" is too long then you'd have to repeat the experiment.

    Delly10 said:
    change the bios to make it stop draining the battery when shut down
    There is no such Bios setting.


    All the best,
    And thanks for the rep,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 20 Dec 2023 at 22:02.
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  7. Posts : 442
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Try3 said:
    Again, I think a single month would avoid being too late.
    If "a few months" is too long then you'd have to repeat the experiment.


    There is no such Bios setting.


    All the best,
    And thanks for the rep,
    Denis
    Ok, the experiment is now complete, and has very interesting results.
    I was originally going to leave the battery removed for a few months to see if the battery drained at the same rate as when it was installed. Remember, my past experience is that I had left the computer Shut Down (not in Sleep mode) for 4 months and 3 weeks after charging the battery to 75%. When I started it back up after all that time, the battery level was down to ZERO.

    So, I decided to remove the internal battery after charging it up to 70% and then wait a few months to reinstall it and see if it had drained at the same rate as when it was installed. I ended up waiting for 5 months and 10 days. The result is that the battery level upon reinstallation and computer startup was at 62%. It had only dropped by a measly 8% in over 5 months!

    Conclusion: The laptop is indeed using the battery even after being shut down. I've previously done everything I can to stop that from happening, and it seems that nothing will prevent it, short of physically removing the battery.
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  8. Posts : 17,040
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #48

    For my part, I've started seeing varying results.
    Sometimes I shut down the computer completely for a few days and then find that it has been losing 2% of battery charge a day.
    Sometimes I shut down the computer completely for a few days and then find that it has been losing no battery charge at all.


    Denis
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  9. Posts : 14,144
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #49

    I've had 10-year-old Notebooks keep their charge after 3 months of full shutdown by holding the power key in for 10 seconds rather than the usual shutdown process. Years ago the power supply in a computer connected directly to the power switch when using the AT-style but the ATX-style boards have the power switch connected to it and the board connected to the power supply, always has power to it when connected to a power source. The power switch wakes up the motherboard to get things started.
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