How to make drive boot

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  1. Posts : 116
    win 10 professional
       #1

    How to make drive boot


    I recently posted a thread where I had "bricked" my PC by messing about with Acronis Disk Director 12.5.
    I thought I'd lost the BIOS, somehow. I hadn't.

    The problem now is to get the HDD to boot Win10 with that same PC.
    When installed, the PC shows no HDD present but, if I remove it and connect it to another PC via USB, that second PC can see the HDD and I can view all the files there.

    I'm frightened to use Acronis again but can see options there to make is a basic HDD, a dynamic HDD and suchlike. I don't want to lose the data or the apps on that HDD.

    Any help, please.
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  2. Posts : 43,022
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    a. You could try booting your PC from Macrium Reflect's boot disk (install free prog and create the disk) and use the
    Fix boot
    utility on that disk.

    or

    b. You might also have some success by booting your PC from a Win 10 installation disk, clicking on 'Repair your computer' and navigating to Startup Repair.

    Run Startup Repair in Windows 10
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  3. Posts : 116
    win 10 professional
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thank you.
    I have a USB disk with Win 10 on it.
    I selected the "startup repair" option, but it couldn't find Win 10 on the hdd.
    Trying the various Win 10 advanced repair options also gave no luck. Trying to roll-back to a previous time showed none present.
    It's just that the PC can't see the HDD. I tried to add it in the BIOS, but it's not available to add.

    On another PC, with USB link, that HDD is present and all the files are there.
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  4. Posts : 43,022
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Please post a screenshot of the partition on the disk as seen from the 2nd PC using a 3rd party partition manager such as Minitool Partition Wizard, ensuring all text is visible thus:
    How to make drive boot-screenshot-.png
    Check that appropriate partitions have drive letters assigned.

    Are there any other disks in the problem PC? Are they visible from a command prompt when you boot from the Win 10 install disk?

    Try removing them. You could also boot your problem PC from a live boot disk such as Kyhi's and view your disk thus.
    You are being redirected...

    I'm frightened to use Acronis again but can see options there to make is a basic HDD, a dynamic HDD and suchlike. I don't want to lose the data or the apps on that HDD.
    I guess from that you haven't yet started using disk imaging regularly and routinely as is so, so so often recommended here e.g. Macrium Reflect (free-paid) + large enough external storage.

    Then you have potentially multiple dates to which you can restore partitions, and recover from many bad situations without help, and a full backup too.
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  5. Posts : 23,292
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #5

    The very first thing you need to do, is to get the drive to show up in the BIOS.
    If it doesn't show up there, you have a connection problem or a hardware problem.
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  6. Posts : 116
    win 10 professional
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Please excuse my ignorance.
    When I normally take a screenshot I use Shift, print screen, paste.
    That's not working here.
    I've uploaded the screen from Acronis on the second PC. No, I haven't. I've cocked that up. I'll try again.

    I'll go and investigate the first PC now to check for hardware connection faults.

    Thanks.
    How to make drive boot Attached Files
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  7. Posts : 23,292
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #7

    sean5302 said:
    Please excuse my ignorance.
    When I normally take a screenshot I use Shift, print screen, paste.
    That's not working here.
    I've uploaded the screen from Acronis on the second PC. No, I haven't. I've cocked that up. I'll try again.

    I'll go and investigate the first PC now to check for hardware connection faults.

    Thanks.



    Option One, here: How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files at Ten Forums




    Here try this...

    1. Hit the print screen key when the image you want is on the screen.
    2. Go to Start > Windows Accessories > Paint and open that program.
    3. Go to Paste > Paste, to paste the screen shot you just took into Paint.
    4. Go to File >Save As... and save the image as a .png file. Save it on your desktop.


    THEN use Option One in the tutorial above.

    Like so...



    How to make drive boot-image1.png







    /edit Here is your pic...




    How to make drive boot-image1.png







    But like I said above....you first need to be able to SEE the drive in your BIOS. Then we can work on getting the computer to boot from it.


    THEN you need to uninstall that cancerous Acronis program and start using Macrium Reflect (free or paid).
    Unlike Acronis, Macrium uses only one process and one service.

    I used to use Acronis myself. But after the 2010 version it just got too bloated and... cancerous.
    Last edited by Ghot; 09 Oct 2020 at 08:39.
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  8. Posts : 116
    win 10 professional
    Thread Starter
       #8

    On the afflicted PC I've done the following:
    1. Checked continuity across each wire in the 7 pin Sata cable. All OK.
    2. Put a known good hdd there. Same problem, not detected by PC bios.
    3. Checked bios on afflicted PC. There is only Onboard NIC IPV4 and IPV6 present.
    4. On pressing PC power button, the PC hdd light does come on, as if it's seeing it.

    I note your question about how to get the afflicted PC to see the hdd in the bios. That's what I'm stuck with.
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  9. Posts : 23,292
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #9

    sean5302 said:
    On the afflicted PC I've done the following:
    1. Checked continuity across each wire in the 7 pin Sata cable. All OK.
    2. Put a known good hdd there. Same problem, not detected by PC bios.
    3. Checked bios on afflicted PC. There is only Onboard NIC IPV4 and IPV6 present.
    4. On pressing PC power button, the PC hdd light does come on, as if it's seeing it.

    I note your question about how to get the afflicted PC to see the hdd in the bios. That's what I'm stuck with.


    Some things to check...

    1. Try a different SATA port on the motherboard.
    2. Try a different SATA cable.
    3. Stick a USB stick in the affected comp somewhere, and see if IT shows up in the BIOS.
    4. Try a different cable from the power supply to the hard drive.

    Ok, skip step three. We already know that works, from post #3
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  10. Posts : 116
    win 10 professional
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Tried a different Sata port and a different Sata cable. No good.
    I'm now wondering about the power supply (previously fine) because the hdd doesn't sound to be spinning much. It's hard to tell over the sound of the PC's fans but, when placed in a USB enclosure, it spins up quite loudly and is obviously working. I don't hear that when it's connected to the ailing PC.
    It could be just that this PC isn't asking the hdd to run because the bios can't see it.
    There are 2 power connectors and I tried both of them. No good.
    What voltages should I see on the Sata power cables? I'll Google that myself now.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I tried removing the Sata data cable and starting with just the power cable connected.
    The hdd spins up fine.
    I also then get a message onscreen "no hdd connected" so it definitely knows when there is, or isn't one there. Just nothing in the bios showing a hdd.
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