Help choosing a bluetooth dongle for win 10?

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  1. Posts : 14,127
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
       #21

    sygnus21 said:
    If that were the case my desktop would malfunction at boot as I have all sorts of USB devices plugged into USB 3.1 ports off the back of my PC. In fact, of the 8 USB ports off the rear I/O only 2 are USB 2.0, while the remaining 6 are 3.1. Of the 5 USB items I've got connected there only one is using a USB 2.0 port. Also note that my mouse/keyboard is fully functional in the BIOS even if the USB receiver is plugged into a USB 3.1 port. Been there done that.

    Most modern day motherboards do support booting with devices attached to USB 3.0 ports. Even my old Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 board back in 2010 did. What you do want to check is that Legacy USB support is enabled.

    I own five Gigabyte boards (X85, Z87, Z170, Z270, Z390) and all boot just fine with attachments attached to their rear USB 3 / 3.1 ports.
    Yep, that's why my use of "most" and your use of "modern" are important to note. I have GigaByte, ASUS, MSI, Dell and HP machines that won't support USB 3 at boot.
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  2. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #22

    Berton said:
    Yep, that's why my use of "most" and your use of "modern" are important to note.
    A very important note since near all motherboards have been using USB 3.0 since at least 2010. My Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 included a USB 3.0 Renesas (NEC) chip.

    Berton said:
    I have GigaByte, ASUS, MSI, Dell and HP machines that won't support USB 3 at boot.
    For clarity, when you say "won't support USB 3 at boot" does that actually mean if you have a device plugged into a USB 3 port those PC's won't boot??? What years are those cause they boot now. I could swear my 2010 X58 did as well, but it's been ages since I used that board so.., but my Z87 back in 2013 did.
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  3. Posts : 11,246
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #23

    Hi there

    @sygnus21

    just to clear confusion over USB3 won't boot.

    some old mobos won't support USB3 boot (BIOS problem with old BIOS's) even with USB3 ports as well as USB2 ones.-- however once the OS (whatever it is) starts booting the USB 3 ports are supported. There's a few of these around still e.g old HP Gen 8 Proliant Microservers (those small cube things) --the newer Gen 10 of these do boot from USB 3 ports.

    The old mobos just ignore the USB 3 port ( although a few will recognize a keyboard / mouse in a USB3 port - mine doesn't as I've tried that !!) until the OS initializes it which is well after the start of the boot process -- I can see that easily -- booting up one of my NAS (linux servers) --HP Gen 8 proliant microserver - the old one -- with a USB 3 hub plugged into a rear USB 3 port - the light doesn't come on until the Linux kernel has loaded and starts. Having USB 3 devices plugged in to a USB 3 port doesn't stop the boot process -- system also has 2 rear and 2 front USB 2 ports - devices can boot from those as well as an internal SD card (micro one like in a phone).

    A USB 3 device plugged into a USB 2 port will usually boot / function if the USB 3 device is backward compatible for USB 2 --usually they are but of course the device will only perform at USB 2 speeds.

    So to recap a computer that won't boot from a USB3 port WILL boot (from the internal HDD/SSD ) even if devices plugged into the USB3 port - they won't be recognized until after the main boot process and the kernel (whether Linux or Windows) starts. Those devices usually can be plugged into a USB 2 port and the computer will boot from the USB device if selected - although as previously stated it will only function at USB2 speeds / performance.

    Just wondering though if anybody considered my idea of using a Blue tooth transmitter rather than messing around with USB-->Bluetooth dongles,

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 2,733
    Windows 10
       #24

    Getting back to the original post.

    Your MOBO is end of life, parts of it are probably out of spec.

    Cheap electronics are made with out of spec reject components going out of the back door of production plants and poor quality assembly. Flogged off cheap to unsuspecting purchasers.
    The combination of the two is unlikely to work.

    Ebay and Amazon reviews are dubious, almost complete rubbish, for any tech component.

    Even a quality Bluetooth dongle would be unlikely to work properly on such a MOBO. It has a lot of old electrolytic capacitors, have a look, some maybe bulging/leaking.
    You should state the age of the MOBO in the first place, saves people's time, post #18 is rather too late.
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  5. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #25

    Helmut said:
    Getting back to the original post.

    Your MOBO is end of life, parts of it are probably out of spec.
    Getting back to facts....

    You know this how???? The OP still has not to provided the system specs for said PC despite being asked to do so...

    spark001uk said:
    Sorry, perhaps I should've clarified. This is a win10 desktop (running 1909), not the laptop.
    sygnus21 said:
    Then perhaps you should post your system specs so that we have the proper information to try to diagnose the issue.
    The system posted in the OP's system specs is not the system in question. Thank you.
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  6. Posts : 73
    Windows 10 Home v1903
    Thread Starter
       #26

    sygnus21 said:
    The OP still has not to provided the system specs for said PC despite being asked to do so...
    HP Pavilion a6355.uk :
    Asus M2N68-LA Narra3, AMD Phenom X4 9500, 6GB PC2-5300, Samsung HD501L 500GB HDD, HP GSA-H60L Lightscribe DVD-RW, Lite-on iHOS104 BD-ROM, Corsair HX750 PSU, MSI 275 GTX lightning. Win10 Home 1909.
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  7. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #27

    You've been here since 2015, and this isn't your first post so you know your system specs need to be filled in under your profile in system specs. You also know the post listing them would be buried eventually, so I can only conclude you don't take this serious, and thus there's no need for me to hang around.

    Peace:)
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  8. Posts : 73
    Windows 10 Home v1903
    Thread Starter
       #28

    sygnus21 said:
    You've been here since 2015, and this isn't your first post so you know your system specs need to be filled in under your profile in system specs. You also know the post listing them would be buried eventually, so I can only conclude you don't take this serious, and thus there's no need for me to hang around.

    Peace:)
    OK, that's up to you. But the main intention of this thread was about asking opinions on different makes of dongle in general, which most here have been very helpful with. The parts of the pc are getting changed soon, that's why I haven't filled the specs in. (If I keep it at all that is)

    As to why you have felt the need to be so rude I don't know.

    Thank you to everyone else for your help, much appreciated.
    Last edited by spark001uk; 14 Dec 2019 at 17:14.
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