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  1. Posts : 4
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    system restore or disk imaging


    Hey folks,

    I am coming from several system restore/disk imaging topics here and need your advice to decide.
    I just made a fresh install of Windows 10 Pro, 22H2 and this time I am paying special attention to what to install (no cleaners). This is my desktop and I rarely use it through the year since I am mobile so I thought installing a system restore utility would make sense in case one day things go wrong with it. I've heard about RollbackRx/Reboot RestoreRx and MR being discussed but not sure how these programs are any different from Windows' and what to choose.

    So this PC won't be updated frequently but yearly, perhaps, twice at most. And I may need to remotely connect to this to check some of my music, documents, etc. And I won't have to protect some particular files but I want to ensure that my whole windows and programs could be restored at any point.

    So your guidance would be helpful since I don't want to bog down my PC with software trying-outs too much. Thanks for your attention, cheers.

    PS Also, a shoutout to @TairikuOkami for sharing his favourite commands, here:
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  2. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #2

    Brec,

    1 System imaging
    MS have told everybody to stop using their disk imaging utility.
    MR is quite popular.
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect - TenForumsTutorials - This includes making their boot disk & optionally adding a Macrium reflect option to your boot menu.
    Macrium Reflect KnowledgeBase - user guide
    Additionally, Macrium reflect users have posted that its boot disk has better startup repair capabilities than Windows installation USBs.
    Macrium Reflect Boot disk - Fix Boot Problems - MacriumReflectKB
    Use Macrium Reflect Rescue Media to Fix Windows Boot Issues - TenForumsTutorials


    2 Cleaning
    I use
    Disk Cleanup - TenForumsTutorials
    every month or so.


    All the best,
    Denis
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  3. Posts : 23,465
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4412 (x64) [22H2]
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  4. Posts : 43,199
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    1. Disk imaging - to external storage which you can then physically store safely and securely.
    Periodicity- depends how much change there is and how critical your PC is. Remember- it's also a full backup of everything you've not though to back up otherwise, but not everything on the disk image may be readily retrievable as useful data should you wish to do so for some reason.

    Note that the very act of disk imaging (with Macrium Reflect at least) verifies the integrity both of source and backup.

    So if that's infrequent, also consider monitoring the state of your disk(s) routinely - which is a good idea anyway.

    2. System Restore- a very useful complement to Disk Imaging. I have a restore point created daily on schedule (tutorial available).
    Some people decry it. I don't. But beware- sometimes, suddenly, you may find that restoring doesn't succeed.

    3. Data backup.
    I additionally back up key faster changing data that would be hard for me to reproduce on demand, also to a USB disk, more frequently than I update my disk image set.

    Consider what might happen... then consider how you might recover from it, and what you might lose.
    Be prepared.
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  5. Posts : 4
    w10
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    @Try3: That's news to me. So does this mean utilising the DISM command tool is overridden or that is unrelated?

    I am going to have MR's tutorial a look. But as I said I hardly care about any files on C, except the mp3 archive and they are on the D (SATA) and I care more about the stability of how I configured my Windows and the software settings I want to preserve without having to format.

    I'd be happy to hear you guys' system restore recs.
    Not sure about the differences between RollbackRx and Reboot RestoreRx though.
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  6. Posts : 17,012
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    BrecMadak said:
    @Try3: That's news to me. So does this mean utilising the DISM command tool is overridden or that is unrelated?
    Unrelated.

    I thought you were referring to Control panel, Backup & restore.
    [Actually, its full name is Backup & restore (Windows 7) just to remind us that it was copied over from Windows 7 with a bare minimum of change.]
    MS said not to use it anymore in their announcement of Windows 10 Version 1709 and have never withdrawn that warning

    imaging deprecated in Ver 1709 - TenForums


    I use system imaging so faults do not force me into a week's work re-installing & re-setting up Windows & my applications.
    I back up my own files, including my audio-video collection, using the built-in utility RoboCopy.
    Robocopy - SS64
    Robocopy - MSLearn
    Sample RoboCopy backing up script [post #36] - TenForums


    BrecMadak said:
    I'd be happy to hear you guys' system restore recs.
    Do be careful about the terms you are using.
    - System restore is the name of a particular procedure [the one that dalchina was referring to when he wrote about creating & restoring Restore points].
    - Making system images & restoring system images are the capabilities provided by, for example, Macrium reflect.


    And thanks for the rep,
    Denis
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  7. Posts : 43,199
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    I care more about the stability of how I configured my Windows and the software settings I want to preserve without having to format.
    That's one of the very good reasons to use disk imaging regularly and routinely- to potentially avoid having to do a clean install. E.g. disk failure, irrecoverable unbootable situation, your own bad mistake (oh, surely not...).
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  8. Posts : 23,465
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4412 (x64) [22H2]
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    BrecMadak said:
    @Try3: That's news to me. So does this mean utilising the DISM command tool is overridden or that is unrelated?

    I am going to have MR's tutorial a look. But as I said I hardly care about any files on C, except the mp3 archive and they are on the D (SATA) and I care more about the stability of how I configured my Windows and the software settings I want to preserve without having to format.

    I'd be happy to hear you guys' system restore recs.
    Not sure about the differences between RollbackRx and Reboot RestoreRx though.




    Here's a quickie guide for Macrium Reflect and for AOMEI Backupper Standard...

    Macrium Reflect and AOMEI Backupper - GUIDES | Windows 11 Forum
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  9. Posts : 5,459
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    BrecMadak said:
    This is my desktop and I rarely use it through the year since I am mobile so I thought installing a system restore utility would make sense in case one day things go wrong with it. I've heard about RollbackRx/Reboot RestoreRx and MR being discussed but not sure how these programs are any different from Windows' and what to choose.
    System restore is unreliable, even MS recommends to use 3rd party system backup.
    MS is trying to get back into the game in Windows 11, but it has still a long way to go.

    Macrium is no longer free (2024). I am using EaseUS, because it is the only free backup with PreOS option.
    Reboot RestoreRx is an option, but it designed to be used as such, to be restored upon reboot, not a backup.
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  10. Posts : 43,199
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    I've heard about RollbackRx/Reboot RestoreRx and MR being discussed but not sure how these programs are any different from Windows' and what to choose.
    Consider:
    - your system disk has failed irrecoverably or your O/S is irrecoverably corrupt.

    These will not help:
    - System Restore
    - Rollback RX

    Any disk imaging program, where you have chosen to save image files to a safe location (outside your PC) will as they provide a bootable disk. You can then restore to a new system disk.

    Even if your PC was stolen, there's a decent chance that one way or another you can get your familiar working environment back up and running on a different PC.

    System Restore cannot be compared to disk imaging in any meaningful way.
    It deals with the registry, system files, installed programs- not data.
    Disk imaging is far more robust, and deals with everything on the partitions imaged.
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