Confused about Backup Strategies


  1. Posts : 91
    windows 11 64 bit h22
       #1

    Confused about Backup Strategies


    I am in the process of acquiring a newer computer. It will be running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. My thinking is to clone or make an image of all the programs on drive C: I was thinking of placing this file on an SSD. Is it possible to make this file available on the Cloud?

    I have tried in the past to make a Backup using Windows backup and never could get it to work. It was an older HDD but I had reformatted the drive so it was free of data and program files.

    The problem with Cloning is Microsoft is changing to new Versions of Windows frequently. Though that may not be true with Windows 10 Pro 64 bit version.

    Will I be at a disadvantage if I only have 8Gb of Ram using a 64-bit version of Windows 10 Pro? My main usage is photo storage, youtube videos, Google Maps and Earth and occasional streaming.
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  2. Posts : 23,282
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
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    @1ThursdayJC

    Most of us on here use Macrium Reflect 7.xx (free/paid). Unlike most backup software, Macrium runs only one Service and one process. In other words.. it's fairly light or resources.

    A lot of people make a full OS image backup, then make incremental backups, to keep their full backup, up to date.

    Me, I make only full OS image backups, right before I'm about to make some changes or MS updates, etc. I only keep about 4-5 of them. If anything goes wrong, I can just restore from a backup, and I'm good to go.

    Most backup software allows you to create bootable rescue media, (CD/USB), so even if Windows won't boot, you can still access and restore from your backups.

    And ofc, Ten Forums has your back with excellent tutorials on the subject...
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect




    On a side note, I've been using various backup softwares, since about 2002, and I've never had to re-install Windows (knock on wood). It would take a lot to mess up a system that can access proper backups.
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  3. Posts : 16,953
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    I agree with Ghot.

    Make images not clones and make sure you test your chosen imaging program's boot disk.

    MS's imaging solution has not got a good reputation and is now 'deprecated', which means [at best] that MS will address security vulnerabilities in it for a while. MS themselves recommended that everybody use a third-party imaging solution instead.

    Don't forget to back up your own files as well. This can be done more frequently than making a system image.

    Macrium Reflect is often recommended in this forum for making system images. Other utilities are available but this one is so commonplace that you can get plenty of help for it.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect - TenForumsTutorials
    Macrium Software Macrium Reflect Free
    Macrium USB - TenForums
    Macrium Reflect KnowledgeBase - user guide [version-independent link]

    It can also make bootable system images. This facility is called viBoot and it requires Win10 Pro.
    Macrium viBoot - Macrium KB
    Macrium viBoot - Create Virtual Machine using Macrium Image - TenForumsTutorials

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  4. Posts : 16,953
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    1ThursdayJC said:
    The problem ... is Microsoft is changing to new Versions of Windows frequently
    Your image is a backup. It will enable you to restore your whole OS drive to the state it was in when the image was made [that's Windows, applications & anything else on the drive].

    So if you get software misbehaviour that you cannot fix inside 20 minutes, update your data file backup then restore the last system image. Then restore your own files from ther backup if they are on the same drive as the OS.

    I make a new system image every month before updating to the latest Cumuative update.
    - I also make new system images before & after any major change. Any change that would take me longer to repeaat than, say, 20 minutes.

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  5. Posts : 31,681
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #5

    1ThursdayJC said:
    Will I be at a disadvantage if I only have 8Gb of Ram using a 64-bit version of Windows 10 Pro? My main usage is photo storage, youtube videos, Google Maps and Earth and occasional streaming.
    The minimum RAM required to run 64-bit Windows 10 is 2GB. I would say that 4GB should be regarded as the practical minimum, else you end up using the swapfile a lot and slowing down the system.

    I have several machines with 4GB and they run x64 W10 well. 8GB should be enough for your purposes, but if you can afford it then go for 16GB. I have an 8GB machine and a 16GB machine, for general use there is little difference, but the extra RAM would be helpful if you are into video editing or high res photo editing..

    As others have already said, Macrium Reflect is a good way to back up your system.
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  6. Posts : 2,068
    Windows 10 Pro
       #6

    As others have said, Macrium is a great application. It's what I have been using for years. It works great.

    I just backup to an external hard drive. Ideally, you would keep the external hard drive offsite in case of a fire/flood/theft. You certainly could copy your image to the cloud, however images are rather large and depending upon your upload speed, it could take quite a long time to copy to the cloud.

    8GB with Windows 10 64-bit is just fine.
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  7. Posts : 91
    windows 11 64 bit h22
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Tanks for all your input


    My problem has been file explorer and with Win 7 things would go wonky. Now that was a different computer so that could have been a hardware problem. That computer died in 1.5 years. It was a MSI laptop. I have been using an HP the last 9 years and it is on it's last legs.
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  8. Posts : 7,811
    Windows 10 Home
       #8

    To show what a fanatic I am, take a look at this screen capture.

    To make things even more safe I use two backup programs.

    I know I know.

    Confused about Backup Strategies-macrium.jpg
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  9. Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
       #9

    Mine of 1909 on the X299, all full backups.
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  10. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #10

    When using disk imaging, create one before upgrading - just in case.

    Then remember to start a new sequence of backups (new base/initial image and backup job) each time you upgrade Windows.

    Why? So much changes.

    And note that if you are, for example with the free version of M Reflect, using base image + a set of differential images, you can restore the partitions imaged with the base image, or any differential image + the base image- i.e. to different dates.

    Windows typically consists of 4 partitions (UEFI), fewer if MBR. You should image them all - and you can image any partition.

    You can mount and extract files too.

    System Restore complements disk imaging and is great - when it works. The big difference- no adverse effect on user data. It's a great idea to keep personal data off C:
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