Why is drive image larger than C;/ drive ?

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  1. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
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    Why is drive image larger than C;/ drive ?


    Thought I'd make a couple different images on my recently built & never used PC. The C: drive is an SSD and the only thing on it is the Windows 10 OS (vers 1909). For starters I made an image using the Windows 10 image function and used a USB HDD.

    Properties show the C:\ with 33.7 GB used and the D:\ with the image with 63,2 GB used. Why is the image so much larger than the original? I thought image files were compressed to save space.
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  2. Posts : 2,144
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
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    I suspect you may have left the ticks on a few boxes to include in the image some partitions/drives that are not part of actual OS.

    Imaging program used ... ??
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  3. Posts : 16,950
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    Mike100 said:
    I made an image using the Windows 10 image function
    Mike,

    I think time spent investigating this would not be useful given that
    Why is drive image larger than C;/ drive ?-imaging-deprecated-ver-1709-tenforums.png
    imaging deprecated in Ver 1709 - TenForums



    Macrium Reflect is often recommended in this forum for making system images. Other utilities are available but this one is so commonplace that you can get plenty of help for it.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect - TenForumsTutorials
    Macrium Software Macrium Reflect Free
    Macrium USB - TenForums
    Macrium Reflect KnowledgeBase - user guide [version-independent link]

    It can also make bootable system images. This facility is called viBoot and it requires Win10 Pro.
    Macrium viBoot - Macrium KB
    Macrium viBoot - Create Virtual Machine using Macrium Image - TenForumsTutorials



    While you're thinking about backups, consider Backup and Restore Device Drivers - TenForumsTutorials as well.



    I'm sorry that I have not responded on the particular question you raised but I thought it would be better to respond as I have done.

    All the best,
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
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    idgat said:
    I suspect you may have left the ticks on a few boxes to include in the image some partitions/drives that are not part of actual OS.

    Imaging program used ... ??
    I used the program that came with Windows 10. Figured I'd start with that & then make a backup with Macrium, etc.

    There's only one drive in the PC at the moment & it's the SSD with a single partition with the OS. There are no programs installed yet. That's why I used the Windows 10 imaging function.
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  5. Posts : 4,594
    several
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    Is there anything else on the USB attached HDD ?
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  6. Posts : 31,681
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    Mike100 said:
    .... Why is the image so much larger than the original?

    ...I used the program that came with Windows 10. Figured I'd start with that & then make a backup with Macrium, etc.

    I have uses both extensively, but stopped using Microsoft's built in imaging after I tried Macrium - it's so much more flexible, configurable and far more reliable.

    How did you start making the MS system image? There are two ways to start the process. The first is to set up a back-up and include a system image, the second is to click create a system image.

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    I suspect you set up a back-up. This backs up files first, then creates a system image. You are in effect backing up twice, which would explain why the used space on your backup HDD is larger than the used space of the C: drive being imaged. You can tell that you have done this by looking at the HDD you backed up to. There will be two new folders on it, one is named WindowsImageBackup and contains the system image, the other has the same name as your PC and contains the files back-up as a multiple set of .zip files.

    If you want to just make a system image you should click the 'Create a system image' link. If you repeated this, and there was sufficient free space on the destination HDD, then the previous system image may be retained. This could also explain why your image is apparently larger than the source.

    Microsoft's system image backup solution has little if any user-configurable options. You cannot tell how many (if any) previous images will be retained, nor can you set what compression is used. For imaging to an HDD it will use minimal compression. The system image should be close to, but not larger than the used space of the partitions included in the image. This is really frustrating, because it DOES have a high compression mode - but it will only use it when putting the image on DVDs.

    Macrium is fully configurable and by far the better imaging solution.
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  7. Posts : 1,621
    Windows 10 Home
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    Definitely retire Microsoft backup/restore usage, for some time now, I have been using Macrium Reflect and Image For Windows to make full images onto external media. And, if/when you do decide on which 3rd party BR to use, make sure to make DVD and USB boots and test those boots. The only reason to make backups is to eventually do a restore.
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  8. Posts : 162
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
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    SIW2 said:
    Is there anything else on the USB attached HDD ?
    The USB drive Is a 1TB HDD in a SATA enclosure. It's a new HDD that's never been used Properties showed a few MB of space used before I put the image on it and I presumed this had to do with allocation or partitioning or similar. But those few MB do not show up now. Only one item shows up, WindowsImageBackup.

    The USB drive Properties list it as "TO External USB 3.0 SCSI Disk Device". Any idea why "SCSI" is indicated?

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    Bree said:
    I have uses both extensively, but stopped using Microsoft's built in imaging after I tried Macrium - it's so much more flexible, configurable and far more reliable.

    How did you start making the MS system image? There are two ways to start the process. The first is to set up a back-up and include a system image, the second is to click create a system image.
    I selected "Create a system image" because there was nothing to backup.

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    FWIW when I look in Computer Management > Disk Management, it indicates

    New Volume (D:)
    931.51 GB NTFS
    Healthy (Primary Partition)
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  9. Posts : 1,871
    W10 pro x64 20H2 Build 19042.610
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    931GB sounds right for a 1TB disk. The available space will be reported as less than 1TB as shown here.

    Its a while since I used Windows own backup routine but that said it always worked well for me. I also remember that you couldn't just hover over the backup folder created and see the size of it. You had to dig a bit deeper and I also recollect the successive images it made were either incremental or differential as the size of subsequent images was relatively small.

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  10. Posts : 14,022
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
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    Confirming what @Mooly said, the formatted size is less and how size is reported.
    Why Does My 1TB Hard Drive Offer only 931GB of Space?
    I've also noticed several times that USB drives get interpreted as SCSI [Small Computer System Interface], probably is the electronics in the case containing the actual drive. There were SCSI drives when I started building computers mid-'90s but I fortunately didn't have to work with them but with the IDE drives [now called PATA]. The newest connections are SATA.
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