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  1.    30 Jul 2015 #1
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Win10 Pro

    Does Win8 Pro Retail licence carry over to Win10 Pro upgrade?


    Gday all

    Trying to get my situation sorted.

    I have just upgraded my Win 8 Pro Retail version. Everything has gone smooth touch wood.

    Being a retail license, I can use this copy on one machine at any time. ie I build a new machine I still can use as long as my previous machine is made redundant.

    I am planning a new build within 3 weeks. Does my Win8 Pro license still stand?
    Can I install Win 10 Pro on my new machine and activate upon logging in?

    In the Win10 FAQ it states Win10 is connected to hardware and that you can do a fresh install on the same machine.

    QUOTE:
    Can I reinstall Windows 10 on my computer after upgrading?

    Yes. Once you’ve upgraded to Windows 10 using the free upgrade offer, you will be able to reinstall, including a clean install, on the same device. You won’t need a product key for re-activations on the same hardware. If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation. You’ll also be able to create your own installation media like a USB drive or DVD, and use that to upgrade your device or reinstall after you’ve upgraded.

    /QUOTE


    Has my previous licence been trumped?

    I have checked my account products. Win10 Pro is listed with "To Be Filled By O.E.M."


    Thankyou for any advice.

    Cheers Bob
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  2.    30 Jul 2015 #2

    Being a retail license, I can use this copy on one machine at any time. ie I build a new machine I still can use as long as my previous machine is made redundant.
    As far as i understand once you have upgraded your Win8 retail version to Win10, a hardware hash is generated that ties your Windows license to the hardware in your pc. In your case your free upgrade to Win10 has been tied to your pc.

    I am planning a new build within 3 weeks. Does my Win8 Pro license still stand?
    Can I install Win 10 Pro on my new machine and activate upon logging in?
    Therefore your current Win8 Pro license has been used and connected to your current PC, if you build a new pc you probably have to purchase a Win7 / Win8 license from which you can upgrade.

    Like the MS Q & A states:

    If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation.
    Building a new pc would fall under 'meaningful hardware change'. And as far as i know it has never been possible to transfer a license to a new or other pc.
    Last edited by NickyNails; 30 Jul 2015 at 09:15. Reason: typo
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  3.    30 Jul 2015 #3
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    Windows 10 RTM

    In theory it all works. In practice, I ended up having to do an upgrade from Windows 8.1 Pro since my clean install of Windows 10 Pro refused to activate with the infamous "blocked key" message - this, despite having completed the upgrade/successfully activated twice before (both Insider build 10240 and the final bits via the Media Creation Tool, both to Windows 10 Pro).

    My advice: Keep your Windows 8 installation source handy since you might find yourself stuck having to do a clean install of that first, and activating it with your Windows 8.xx Pro key, before upgrading to Windows 10 Pro.

    Of course, my experience could have just been an anomaly associated with the overloaded activation servers on the 29th. Or it could have been because my Windows 8 OEM key (which was linked to my system's BIOS/hardware when I first bought it and thus auto-activated from day one) was for the "Core" (i.e. Home) version of 8.xx and I was trying to clean install of Pro 10.xx.

    Bottom Line: Your mileage may vary, and a clean install properly activating - even after a prior upgrade/activation - is far from a given at the moment.

    RCK
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  4.    30 Jul 2015 #4
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by NickyNails View Post
    ... And as far as i know it has never been possible to transfer a license to a new or other pc.
    Not true. It has been possible, in the past, to transfer a Retail license to another PC. OEM licenses could not be transferred.
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  5.    30 Jul 2015 #5
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
    Posts : 3,143
    Windows 10 Pro

    Yes, read the EULA, it explicitly states that retail copies, even upgraded copies are eligible to be transferred, if you delete the copy of windows on the old PC.

    However, that does not mean you can install Windows 10 Upgrade clean on a new PC. You will have to install your older OS, then re-upgrade on a new PC. The upgrade is tied to your Windows 7/8.1 product key, so the activation servers will know that you have a retail copy and will continue to activate even after the 1 year free upgrade period.
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  6.    30 Jul 2015 #6
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    Win10 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Yes, read the EULA, it explicitly states that retail copies, even upgraded copies are eligible to be transferred, if you delete the copy of windows on the old PC.

    However, that does not mean you can install Windows 10 Upgrade clean on a new PC. You will have to install your older OS, then re-upgrade on a new PC. The upgrade is tied to your Windows 7/8.1 product key, so the activation servers will know that you have a retail copy and will continue to activate even after the 1 year free upgrade period.
    Gday Mystere

    Yeh I was pretty sure the license was mine to transfer. Was hoping this would have been made "seamless". The ability for OS transfer is part of what you are paying "premium" for retail.

    It maybe yet as I haven't found anyone else who has gone through the procedure.

    I am hoping now Win10 Pro product is linked to my account with no OEM spec, it is enough for me to load a full Win 10 Pro install and hook up to my account.

    Though as you say I might have to go through the Win 8 pro Install again to gain the upgrade again.

    Will come and report back but may be some time.

    Thankyou to everyone for the input.

    Cheers Bob
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  7.    30 Jul 2015 #7
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10

    I'll be doing this very thing at the weekend with a new mobo and cpu as the install goosed my old mobo.

    So I'll be reinstalling windows 8.1 pro clean and clear then upgrading to windows 10 again....Hope it does ruin anything else.
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  8.    30 Jul 2015 #8
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro

    Yeh I was pretty sure the license was mine to transfer. Was hoping this would have been made "seamless". The ability for OS transfer is part of what you are paying "premium" for retail.
    The problem is that the Win10 "upgrade" is tied to the specific machine - irrespective of the original Win7/8/8.1 license. You can't transfer that Win 10 license to another machine.
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  9.    30 Jul 2015 #9
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    The problem is that the Win10 "upgrade" is tied to the specific machine - irrespective of the original Win7/8/8.1 license. You can't transfer that Win 10 license to another machine.
    Yes, you can. You can't transfer the *ACTIVATION* to a new machine. The license explicitly states you can transfer your upgrade license.
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  10.    30 Jul 2015 #10
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    The problem is that the Win10 "upgrade" is tied to the specific machine - irrespective of the original Win7/8/8.1 license. You can't transfer that Win 10 license to another machine.
    I never read where it actually says that in the EULA. It say's it retains the transferable right when upgraded. How will that work with activation? If you put windows 7 or 8.1 retail on another machine, the activation will see that windows 7 or 8.1 retail version has been upgraded to 10 and it may not activate.
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