Windows 10: My 1709 Fall Creators Update Broke and Reset Mny Things

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  1.    01 Dec 2017 #1

    My 1709 Fall Creators Update Broke and Reset Mny Things


    Thought someone might be interested to know what broke on this update, which did install without errors. I have spent 4 or 5 hours trying to sort out all it did. Some amaze me like deleting ALL my saved Restore Points!!

    Windows Creator Update broke, reset or disrespected my settings choices of the following unacceptably:

    1. Folder Settings - ALL folders in Windows Explorer were reset to the factory default views removing customized columns and choices for folder types. Why? What a hassle!

    2. My custom recycle icons were reset to default. Also why? Sloppy updating.

    3. Telemetry was re-enabled with yet more being reported in to the mother ship.

    4. Privacy settings changed.

    5. Removed all prior system restore points!!!

    6. Reset my disabling of the touch screen.

    7. Re-enabled a disabled Cortana

    8. Reset my changed text highlight color

    9. Changed back fixes for DCOM Errors and most cannot be corrected again saying no permissions to make changes

    10. A number of new features required new settings choices - battery usage by app, etc., but that's OK. This is expected.

    11. 30GB of old data retained for 10-30 days in windows.old while the opportunity remains to revert. A good thing, but worth noting.

    12. Added some things of yet unknown value such as Mixed Reality and Paint 3D. To be investigated.

    Might be more. All I have noted so far. And, restart takes much longer as it shuts down and restarts. Unsure why.

    ~Bob
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  2. Bree's Avatar
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       01 Dec 2017 #2

    rebop said: View Post
    5. Removed all prior system restore points!!!
    It has to - none of the previous restore points can be applied to a completely new OS as they contain files from the old system.


    11. 30GB of old data retained for 10-30 days in windows.old while the opportunity remains to revert. A good thing, but worth noting.
    It's 10 days since 1607 (it was 30 up to 1511). You can delete it earlier if you want.

    Delete Windows.old Folder in Windows 10

    ...And, restart takes much longer as it shuts down and restarts. Unsure why.
    There's a new feature in 1709. Certain apps that can register to do so will be reopened at the next boot if they were open when you shut down. It seems that it's saving/restoring the required data that takes the extra time (even if you had no apps open).

    IE, Chrome, MS Office, Wordpad and Task Manager are some of the app that will reopen at startup. Edge, Firefox and Notepad are amongst those that don't. There are alternative ways to shut down that don't use this feature...

    Bree said:
    ...It appears that for the Fall Creators Update Microsoft have chosen to boot this way when using Shut down or Restart from the Start Menu.

    Workarounds have been found, Alt-F4 on the desktop still shuts down the old way. Shortcuts using the shutdown command can also be used. My preferred method is the shortcuts, putting them in a folder means I can have a toolbar on my taskbar for quick access.

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before
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  3.    01 Dec 2017 #3

    Thanks! Truly. Some great things I did not know or think of. For example, makes perfect sense on Restore Points but still was a surprise.

    "There are alternative ways to shut down that don't use this feature..."

    Cool. Off to learn more. Was so snappy. I'd rather speed up than restart with apps open.

    ~Bob
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  4. Bree's Avatar
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       01 Dec 2017 #4

    rebop said: View Post
    I'd rather speed up than restart with apps open.
    Microsoft seem to have got a lot of bad feedback about this new unannounced 'feature'. Apparently there's going to be a way to turn it off in the next version of Windows 10 (probably to be version 1803 next April).

    on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before
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  5.    01 Dec 2017 #5

    And, btw, still irksome losing all folder settings, new Event errors 1016 and 7034, other things. But nice understanding a few I did not before.
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  6.    02 Dec 2017 #6

    Bree,

    I am not finding a way to restart the old way. Can you detail? The Win-X menu does not do it and I have windows explorer open when I use ALT-F4, so it closes and I really want to just restart.

    Thanks.
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  7.    02 Dec 2017 #7

    Ahhh. I see. Its ALT F4 with focus on the desktop. A little faster, but not like it was.
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  8. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       02 Dec 2017 #8

    For the shortcuts method, I use the commands shutdown.exe /p to shut down and shutdown.exe /r /t 0 to restart.

    For more details on using shutdown commands, open a command prompt and type shutdown /? or see this tutorial.

    Shut Down Computer in Windows 10 (option 8)

    You'll see that restarting apps has always been available with shutdown, what's new in Fall Creators Update is that the Start menu now uses this method.
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  9.    02 Dec 2017 #9

    Thanks again, Bree.

    Latest noted change is ESET NOD32 takes a very long time to start and gives a message something like "we are registering with the security service" on each restart. I will look into that more today. That and the DCOM errors and I will be working as I was before the intrusion again :)
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  10.    03 Dec 2017 #10

    I have a problem with the firewall settings after upgrading yesterday - see Firewall Disabled Bug?. Has anyone had similar problems?
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