Windows 10: It's Wednesday morning, where's my update?

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  1.    15 Nov 2017 #1

    It's Wednesday morning, where's my update?


    Shouldn't I see the newest "Patch Tuesday" update? I received my usual Defender updates, an Adobe Flash one, and the Malicious Software Removal tool, but that's it. When checking manually, the system says it's up to date.
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  3.    15 Nov 2017 #3

    I know. The question is, why does it not appear in Updates on my system?
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       15 Nov 2017 #4

    Pirx said: View Post
    I know. The question is, why does it not appear in Updates on my system?
    I saw the same problem on my test machine when I first upgraded it to 1709 (x86). It was stuck on 16299.15 and saw all other updates except the cumulative update for 16299.19.

    For me, the fix was to go into...
    ...Update's Advanced settings and changed every one of them (except of course that proxy setting with the known bug) then put them back as they were, I even paused then resumed updates. Must have been something out of step in my registry before, because it's now found and installed the 32-bit KB4043961.
    View Configured Update Policies in Windows 10

    The 'setting with the known bug' is the tick-box for 'Enabling this policy will automatically download updates, even over metered connections...'. Do not ever tick that, or you're liable to get a 'some settings are managed by your organization' message appearing (in Pro, at least) that can only be removed by a registry fix. See the rest of the above thread for more on that.
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  5.    15 Nov 2017 #5

    Pirx said: View Post
    I know. The question is, why does it not appear in Updates on my system?
    Just takes a while to rollout to everybody.
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       15 Nov 2017 #6

    cereberus said: View Post
    Just takes a while to rollout to everybody.
    There may be more to it than that. My test machine still couldn't see the October cumulative update a week after it was released. All other updates, yes - it just had a blind-spot for KB4043961. As soon as I 'kicked the tyres' on the update settings it saw and downloaded it.
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  7.    15 Nov 2017 #7

    O.k., thanks guys. I'll give it a week and see if it still doesn't download anything. At that point I'll try fiddling with Advanced Settings (Bree's suggestion) and see if that does it. Funny thing is, it does download other updates, just not the cumulative one.

    Speaking of the advanced settings: I had forgotten about that, so I went there, and it is set
    • Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) for Feature updates
    • delay quality and feature updates for 7 days
    • delay security updates for 0 days


    This is an Enterprise SKU. Perhaps that last set of patches counts as a "quality and features update"?
    It's kind of hard to tell, since the release notes mention both quality/feature and security fixes. As usual, Microsoft has made a mess out of this...


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       15 Nov 2017 #8

    Pirx said: View Post
    Funny thing is, it does download other updates, just not the cumulative one.
    Yes, that's exactly what I saw (Win10 Pro x86, 1709, 16299.15).
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       15 Nov 2017 #9

    [QUOTE=Pirx;1207278 I'll give it a week and see if it still doesn't download anything.

    [/QUOTE]

    If you do not want to wait, here is an excerpt of the thread posted by Brink, Admin.
    Cumulative Update KB4048955 Windows 10 v1709 Build 16299.64
    How to get this update


    This update will be downloaded and installed automatically from Windows Update. To get the stand-alone package for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website.
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       15 Nov 2017 #10

    davidhk said: View Post
    If you do not want to wait, here is an excerpt of the thread posted by Brink, Admin.
    ...To get the stand-alone package for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website.
    Yes, I tried a standalone package on my test machine. It installed fine. I then reverted to an earlier system image to see if the bug would fix itself (it didn't).
    Bree said:
    I installed the offline KB4043961 and successfully updated to 16299.19....
    Time to restore my test machine's image of 16299.15 and wait to see if MS fix the x86 update 'blind-spot'...
    View Configured Update Policies in Windows 10 - Page 2 - Windows Update Activation Tutorials
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