Windows 10: Win10 Update Problems Solved

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  1.    13 Nov 2017 #41

    Hi, the 128Mb is insignificant. See my data disk:

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    The 16Mb is. Good you recall where it went as it would have been created when you clean installed. Remember that your aim is to have Windows partitions on only the one disk.

    It is also true that sometimes people find Windows booting with odd partition configurations - but then can't use Advanced Recovery options and automatic repair, or can't upgrade.
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  2.    13 Nov 2017 #42

    BTW, I'm having trouble getting that Win PE rescue disk you referenced to boot from DVD. Does anything need to be done to the image other than burning it to dvd? I used ImgBurn. Never had this problem before. I'll try extracting the ISO to a flash drive and try that, unless you have other suggestions.
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  3.    13 Nov 2017 #43

    Kyhi's disk -> DVD should boot ok (does on mine); if not it may be a BIOS setting problem like CSM if you have that - I'm no expert there.

    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    for one way to create a bootable flash disk- of course, you're using a different ISO
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  4. Posts : 19,856
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       13 Nov 2017 #44

    These are some USB booting troubleshooting optionsL

    Boot from USB Drive on Windows 10 PC Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials: Boot from USB Drive on Windows 10 PC Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    If you have fast boot or ultra fast boot enabled in your UEFI firmware settings, then you may need to temporarily disable fast boot or ultra fast boot to be able to boot from a USB.

    How to Enable Fast Boot or Ultra Fast Boot in UEFI Firmware Settings for Windows: Enable or Disable Fast Boot in UEFI Firmware Settings for Windows Performance Maintenance Tutorials

    1. Try another USB stick
    2. Try all USB ports (2.0 and 3.0)
    3. When using UEFI Bios you may have to temporarily switch to Legacy in BIOS settings
    4. Turn off temporarily fast boot, secure boot, CSM if enabled
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  5.    13 Nov 2017 #45

    Kyhi's image is good. I apparently had a coaster, even though ImgBurn reported normal verification after the burn. Burned a second one, and it works, as does the flash drive I made of the ISO using Rufus while burning the DVD. Duhhh!
    I used the brute force method of restoring the EFI partition. I re-installed 1511, then restored the image into the OS partition. I then checked the SSD with Minitool, and found a 760 M unallocated partition prior to the OS partition, and a 9.4 G unallocated partition after the OS partition. Whether wise or not, I simply expanded the OS partition to incorporate those two. Here's Minitool after all that.

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    Of course, sfc /scannow still fails, pretty much as expected. Windows still boots fine and runs as expected. Windows is still trying to upgade, and I've had to kill the Upgrade Assistant with task manager. I really can't leave the machine unattended lest I return to find it in the middle of a 4 G upgrade download.
    Am I correct to assume my next move should be a repair install of 1511?
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  6.    13 Nov 2017 #46

    Well, I tried booting the 1511 installation disk, and selecting "repair your PC" rather than installing Windows. Unless I failed to drill down far enough in the various selections, I didn't find anything that looked like "repair and keep everything working as-is". I don't have a recovery image other than the macrium image, so far as I know.
    Reagentc /info reports that the RE status is disabled, and reagentc /enable states the Windows RE image was not found.
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  7.    13 Nov 2017 #47

    Well, I tried using SFCfix, and thought it was going to save my bacon. It apparently ran DISM, which had my internet download maxxed out for 20-30 minutes before it gave me a message that the source files could not be found (looked like it made it about 60% before ending). I am unfamiliar with DISM, and certainly unfamiliar with reading the log file, but it appears to me that it did find a bunch of the source files, just not all of them, based on my reading of the end of the log. The log file can be found at: . Would the Windows 1511 disk be an appropriate source? And would I have to provide a path for each individual feature? Guess I'll have some reading to do at the listed Microsoft site.
    Here's the DISM screen results:

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  8.    14 Nov 2017 #48

    Hi, great work.. the easiest path is an in-place upgrade repair with your 1511 - the sledgehammer approach- rather than trying to analyse the cause.

    Before that please do this if you've not already:
    Now check your file system:

    From an admin command or powershell prompt
    [Windows key + X, click command prompt (admin)]
    chkdsk C: /F
    Your PC will need to restart.
    Post back the result, which you can get after a restart as follows:
    Read Chkdsk Log in Event Viewer in Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    How to read Event Viewer log for Chkdsk in Windows 10 [Tip] | Reviews, news, tips, and tricks | dotTechdotTech
    How do I see the results of a CHKDSK that ran on boot? - Ask Leo!
    Make sure the result is clear or fixed- else do not proceed.

    Naturally it's unfortunate upgrades can be difficult sometimes, I guess for the minority of the sum total of Windows users, and I also find the available support for resolving problems significantly lacking, not to mention the usual obscure error messages or logs.

    Once you've done an in-place upgrade repair, again create a new disk image to preserve that. (Use disk imaging to preserve each achieved stage).

    When you then attempt the upgrade, disable or uninstall any 3rd party AV, use directly connected rather than wireless peripherals, and disconnect anything unnecessary.

    Other possible precautionary steps:
    You may also find it helpful to do a clean boot, although that should not be necessary. Make sure you have nothing running or installed that modifies the GUI.
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  9.    14 Nov 2017 #49

    Chkdsk found no errors. The text of the logfile is here: .

    I may need some help with the in-place upgrade repair. I had planned on doing that earlier (see post after the last Minitool image). When I booted the 1511 installation disk, I first got a screen asking about language and keyboard language (3 items). After filling those out, the next screen is to start the installation -- in small print down in the left lower corner was some hypertext with something about repairing Windows. I clicked on that, and got a screen with 4 or 5 large icons. Don't remember exactly what they were now, but I explored most of them. I either didn't see one for an in-place repair, or I didn't recognize it for what it was. It sounded like whatever I chose was going to install Windows without saving my current configuration of programs. Other icons did other things that didn't seem applicable. Didn't have any way of saving screen shots so you'll have to forgive my very poor paraphrasing (and memory).
    Assuming I was in the right place, any help you could give me on what option to select would be appreciated. If that isn't how to do an in-place repair, any suggestions on what I need to do would be appreciated. I'm feeling a little invulnerable since I have that image I can restore from. <VBG>
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       14 Nov 2017 #50

    The method to perform an in place upgrade requires a working operating system.
    There is no boot to the bootable windows 10 iso.
    Instead the computer is booted in the normal fashion to the desktop.
    File explorer is opened.
    The Windows 10 iso is inserted into any USB port and the iso is then identified within file explorer.
    Click on the iso and look for a file named setup or setup.exe and launch this file.
    Then look in the left lower corner for repair your computer.
    For the rest of the steps follow the text and images in this link:
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Installation Upgrade Tutorials
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