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  1.    04 Oct 2017 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by slicendice View Post
    NOOO! Did you save the installed key somewhere? That one is the one you need...it is a retail key.
    His installed key was the -3V66T key.
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  2.    04 Oct 2017 #22
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    i didnt save any keys before entering the last one and now having this error.... is there any way to roll back my pc...

    The key before was a valid retail key?
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  3.    04 Oct 2017 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by philx View Post
    i didnt save any keys before entering the last one and now having this error.... is there any way to roll back my pc...

    The key before was a valid retail key?
    No the key before was a KMS Client Setup Key
    XXXXX-XXXXX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX
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  4.    04 Oct 2017 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    His installed key was the -3V66T key.
    No it was the other one:

    Code:
    ShowKeyPlus - Windows Product Key Information
    Product  Name:Windows 10 Pro
    Product ID:00331-10000-00001-AA205
    Installed Key:*****-*****-*****-*****-T83GX
    Original Key:*****-*****-*****-*****-3V66T
    Original Edition: Win 10 RTM Professional Retail
    OEM Key:OEM key not present in firmware
    
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  5.    04 Oct 2017 #25
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    they are both lost, so now what do i do...
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  6.    04 Oct 2017 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by slicendice View Post
    No it was the other one:

    Code:
    ShowKeyPlus - Windows Product Key Information
    Product  Name:Windows 10 Pro
    Product ID:00331-10000-00001-AA205
    Installed Key:*****-*****-*****-*****-T83GX
    Original Key:*****-*****-*****-*****-3V66T
    Original Edition: Win 10 RTM Professional Retail
    OEM Key:OEM key not present in firmware
    
    Going by what was posted earlier, that other key is a KMS client setup key, not a retail key. I haven't looked it up myself yet.
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  7.    04 Oct 2017 #27
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    W269N-WFGWX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX is a KMS client setup key, https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../jj612867.aspx It can't be used to activate with ever, its blocked.
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  8.    04 Oct 2017 #28
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    Oh well...if the computer does not have nor ever had an OEM nor Retail key, then there exist only 2 options:
    1. Go to the guy who sold you the computer and demand a valid Retail key that activates on MS servers. Also warn him that his illegal activities will get reported if he can not provide you with one. He must also be able to prove where the key came from.
    2. Just buy a full genuine Retail key from Microsoft and forget about the rest.
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  9.    04 Oct 2017 #29
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    Looking this over from the beginning, this is what I think happened. Windows 10 Pro was installed with the "skip entering a key" option. That gave it the generic 3V66T key. It was not activated as it didn't have a Digital license. Then it was activated with a 10 Pro KMS key. Hard to say if that was an illegal or legal activation. Either way, its not legal for resale of that PC. Now, KMS activation will eventually time out and it will try to reactivate from the KMS server it was originally setup for. I think that where you were at. It was about to time out, tried to reactivate but couldn't connect to the KMS server. Activation would fail eventually, the message was just a heads up to check with your companies IT Pro.

    That, or it was a cheated system and the Windows update undid the cheat. Replacing the modified files with the correct ones. Either way I would be contacting the seller. You should have got a Product Key either on a COA sticker, or embedded in the BIOS. We already established it wasn't in the BIOS.


    If your system had been legally activated with a Digital License, it would have activated with the 3V66T key. All mine, for the most part do. I occasionally get an activation failure. Running slmgr /ato usually fixes that.
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  10.    04 Oct 2017 #30
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    Hi Phil,

    looking at that.

    Original Edition: Win 10 RTM Professional Retail
    a product of this type would have a unique key
    IF PURCHASED from a shop, they MUST also provide the CD and packaging with the key on it

    Original Key: *****-*****-*****-*****-3V66T
    this is a generic key automatically created if NO key is entered on a clean install.
    A new key will be required as this will never activate


    Installed Key: *****-*****-*****-*****-T83GX
    The new key entered by the shop to activate
    in your case a GVLK, NOT a Retail key

    Lets put it this way you, an individual, CANNOT buy a volume licence key, they are purchased by a company/college
    They provide you the key which activates via thier company server NOT the MS server which is where a retail key goes to


    further reading
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...-10-activation

    Roy
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