Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update?

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  1. Posts : 252
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #1

    Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update?


    I just finished upgrading to the Creators Update, and would like to know the best Windows Update settings. I don't want any unexpected restarts, and I would like the option of being asked before installing each update, so I can properly prepare, rather than risk Windows automatically installing it at an inopportune time.

    In the last version of Windows that I had (the Anniversary Update), I used the following trick recommended to me by a member of this forum:

    dalchina said:
    Now you can also take control of Windows Update. This is what I do:
    Using (for convenience) Winaero's free tweaker (it gives the full manual equivalent if you don't trust such tools) I have set Windows to notify only. No unexpected downloads or restarts.

    Attachment 138189

    Read the instructions carefully. It's confusing.
    a. Click Check for updates. Wait.
    b. Click the button on the tweaker.
    c. Check you see this (text at bottom).
    Attachment 138190
    It worked very well, and Windows always gave me the option to perform updates, rather than automatically downloading them.

    However, I do not know whether it is safe to use this method in the Creators Update. Also, even if it is safe, I don't know whether it's my best best option, or whether the Creators Update now provides a better one.

    Currently, Windows Update on my computer looks like this (due to the settings caused by the Creators Update):

    Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update?-windows-update.jpg

    What would you recommend that I do? Also, what is that message about settings being hidden by my organization about? I have no organization.
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  2. Posts : 4,224
    Windows 10
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    I won't speak much to the update settings change for "notify only" but I will speak to the red text that reads "*Some settings..." These days, the notify only method is no longer explicitly available through Settings but through Group Policy. Another workaround is to set your home connection as metered in which case WU won't update automatically (you'll have to check for updates manually, because it won't notify you of pending updates, either -- but if you're a regular here at TenForums, you'll be notified in the News forum every time a new update shows up anyway). As for "*Some Settings..." that means some kind of policy tweak or change has been applied to your PC, and causes that message to appear. Making this go away turns out to be more trouble than it's worth: I've had it on my production PC since 1507 and I've yet to be able to clear it up since (along with lots of other people, if you search out the many threads devoted to that topic here).
    HTH,
    --Ed--
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  3. Posts : 252
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    EdTittel said:
    These days, the notify only method is no longer explicitly available through Settings but through Group Policy.
    It was that way during the Anniversary Update as well. The method that I quoted in my OP uses a program that edits the group policy and other settings, and it worked perfectly in the Anniversary Update. However, I do now know whether it's advisable to use it with the Creators Update.

    Another workaround is to set your home connection as metered in which case WU won't update automatically (you'll have to check for updates manually, because it won't notify you of pending updates, either -- but if you're a regular here at TenForums, you'll be notified in the News forum every time a new update shows up anyway).
    I don't want to do that. I like to be notified when updates are available.
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  4. Posts : 42,988
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Why do you think it's any more or less significant an issue than with previous builds of Windows 10? Or would be when the Autumn/Fall upgrade is released?
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  5. Posts : 252
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    dalchina said:
    Why do you think it's any more or less significant an issue than with previous builds of Windows 10? Or would be when the Autumn/Fall upgrade is released?
    Because some settings and features are different in the Creators Update, and I don't know whether any of them would have an impact on this particular issue.

    Also, I was wondering about the relative merits of the built-in settings available in the Creators Update, such as the one that was automatically selected by my system during the update (which you can see in the picture that I posted in the OP).
    Last edited by hbenthow; 01 Aug 2017 at 18:44.
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  6. Posts : 42,988
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    If you search the forum for
    * Some settings
    including the *, you will find a few relevant threads and if I recall one specific solution. It has been found that this can occur by default on certain edition of Windows (Education) if I recall- see alphahumeric's posts on this.

    The message including a * only occurs for some with the Creator's build.
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  7. Posts : 252
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    dalchina said:
    If you search the forum for
    * Some settings
    including the *, you will find a few relevant threads and if I recall one specific solution. It has been found that this can occur by default on certain edition of Windows (Education) if I recall- see alphahumeric's posts on this.

    The message including a * only occurs for some with the Creator's build.
    I'll have to look into that.

    What would you recommend regarding update settings? Would you recommend using the same Winaero fix as before, leaving the setting as it is now, or something else?
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  8. Posts : 42,988
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #8

    Well, as you can see from my specs, I'm still on the Anniversary edition. I prefer control of updates - usual reasons -
    - no interruption
    - no unexpected restarts

    and the ability to update my disk image before updating if I choose.

    I've recently discovered that in the group policy editor there's also a period you can set (180 days in my case, 365 in the case of the Creator's build if I recall).

    So I'd expect to set
    Defer feature upgrades
    The time period
    Notify before download

    as before. (See attached)

    What Does ā€œDefer Upgradesā€ in Windows 10 Mean?
    Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update? Attached Files
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  9. Posts : 252
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
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    dalchina said:
    I've recently discovered that in the group policy editor there's also a period you can set (180 days in my case, 365 in the case of the Creator's build if I recall).
    In the Creators Update, that setting is also available in the Settings app itself (with no need to use the Group Policy Editor). I have now set mine to 180 days (although it allows up to 365).

    Regarding the general download/notification setting, I tried setting it to "notify only" with Winaero, but it still says, "We'll ask you to download updates, except when updates are required to keep Windows running smoothly. In that case, we'll automatically download those updates". I guess that's the closest to a "notify only" setting that can be achieved in the Creators Update.
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  10. Posts : 42,988
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #10

    The text you are seeing sounds more like what you get if your connection is set as metered.

    You can check if you've successfully set notify only thus:
    Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update?-2.jpg
    Using Winaero's tweaker is a combination of using Check for Updates AND the button on the tweaker.

    Best Windows Update settings for Creators Update?-1.jpg
    For interest
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