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Thanks, I'll take a look at that later.
Thanks, I'll take a look at that later.
OK, done. I made Ethernet a "metered" connection, as suggested. Hopefully I'll never see Creators.
I have a feeling I made this change just in time!
I recently began to see the message Good news! The Windows 10 Creators Update is on its way.
I hope I can reply to that with a simple "NOPE, NO WAY JOSE". :)
You, me, each and every user is the master of his / her computers, entitled to do what he / she wants, independently decide what to do and what not without listening any advice.
That's your right, even when it is so obviously bad and stupid decision as yours. Waiting with great interest your future threads, cries for assistance with this and that security and other issues.
Kari
Every build will eventually expire and loose elementary support without which it will be a hazard and practically useless. There's no W11 coming up in close future so if anybody wants to risk it, don't update it.
Keep your opinion.
If you think avoiding Creators is "bad and stupid", what do you call getting Creators, and from that getting a broken computer? No thanks.
Last edited by margrave55; 08 Aug 2017 at 05:56.
Same here, that's how I call it, too.
On the other hand, intentionally refusing to update to latest version, remaining in version for which support has already ended or will end in near future (version 1607 end of support will most probably be March 2018), that I call stupid and irresponsible (exception: some old hardware cannot be upgraded to version 1703, in which case user has no options).
I call it a highly unlikely event, considering the way Microsoft controls the phased roll-out to block Windows Update from delivering it to hardware with known issues until they are fixed. None of my machines are broken.
And if you should be one of the (very) few unlucky ones it's also a recoverable situation, provided you've heeded the oft-repeated advice on these boards to routinely make a system image.
after clean re-installation of windows..
Since you call people with sensible (as not to end up with a screwed system) needs "stupid",
i politely encourage you to think about the above statements of you
If you think that using windows 10 you are "the master" of your computer, try to better uderstand
how it works.
If you think that the need for a stable system is a stupid thing, then microsoft is taking advantage
of stupid corporations paying lots of money to have exactly the stupid feature of a stable system
with the enterprise edition of windows, or maybe you do not understand the meaning of the
word "stable" namely a system that keeps working exactly how you configued it.
Maybe there is people with different needs than playing and twerking with a pc and they
are not necessarily stupid.
I hope you can understand.
I can, the question is can you? Seems the answer is no.
I have to admit I kind of admire the trick you did with my words. That "master of computer" quote, you had to make it to work for your opposing opinion, therefore you had to take just the first words of it to make it look as if I had meant what you needed me to mean so it would make your following comments plausible. Clever try, to take those words out of context.
What I in fact said was that every user has right to decide what to do with his / her computers:
I did not even hint that every user is master of Windows.
Further, yes I call it extremely stupid if a user intentionally chooses not to update and upgrade fully. Those corporations you mention, it's not even close the same thing. In corporate environment too much can go south if upgrade to new version would be a twice a year event as it now is with consumer versions of Windows 10. It would be a burden to IT departements, that's why Windows offers LTSB (Long Time Servicing Branch) versions to enterprise volume licensing customers. Those versions will also get updates, require to be updated, but they do not need to be upgraded as often as consumer versions.
Latest (current) version of Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB is version 1607, build 14393.1480, called Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016.
If LTSB editions would be available to normal private users, I would never post that it's stupid not to keep Windows 10 up to date. Instead I would post recommending that the user in question should switch to an LTSB version. However, as this is not the case, LTSB versions not available to consumers who do not want up to date version, it's up to us users to keep our devices up to date.
Your shot missed. Sorry about that.
Kari