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  1.    10 Jul 2017 #21
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    Hello again. I got my last invitation to review settings and then could not use computer until I did something. So reviewed settings and I turned them all off, then ran WUSHOWHIDE. This showed the Creator update was lurking. I now have this update 'Hidden' when I look at 'Show Hidden Updates'.

    Questions if I may:
    i) will this remain hidden and not install as long as I leave it in Show Hidden Updates?
    ii) will this prevent other security updates from downloading?
    iii) when looking in 'Power' there is an Update and Shut Down option. So when the next updates come along, assuming ii) doesn't prevent this, will Creator get installed along with the later updates?

    Thank you.
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  2.    10 Jul 2017 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW05 View Post
    i) will this remain hidden and not install as long as I leave it in Show Hidden Updates?
    Yes. However, when 1703 becomes Current Branch for Business it is re-released, effectively making it a new update that will need hiding again.

    ii) will this prevent other security updates from downloading?
    No.

    iii) when looking in 'Power' there is an Update and Shut Down option. So when the next updates come along, assuming ii) doesn't prevent this, will Creator get installed along with the later updates?
    Do you see two options, 'Shut Down' and 'Update and Shut Down', or just the one 'Update and Shut Down'? If you see just one option, it means a cumulative update is waiting to be installed. If you see the two shut down options, this means the Creators Update has already downloaded and is ready to be installed. You are not given a choice if it's only a cumulative update, but you are for a Features Update like the Creators Update because it can take some time to install.
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  3.    10 Jul 2017 #23
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    Do you see two options, 'Shut Down' and 'Update and Shut Down' If you see the two shut down options, this means the Creators Update has already downloaded and is ready to be installed. You are not given a choice if it's only a cumulative update, but you are for a Features Update like the Creators Update because it can take some time to install.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, so I haven't hidden it . Basically it's there waiting to be installed, so when the next updates come along it will get installed then - yes?
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  4.    10 Jul 2017 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW05 View Post
    Basically it's there waiting to be installed, so when the next updates come along it will get installed then - yes?
    It's going to install the next time you shut down and restart the PC, whether or not you wait for another update. In fact, I don't think windows update checks for any more updates until you have dealt with this one. Depending on the specs of your PC, it should take about 40 to 50 minutes to install.

    As you started this thread with "...I should say I am a computer lay person..." and went on to say "...thanks one and all for the input, but I really don't understand what you are talking about..." it's probably not a good idea for us to try and talk you through removing this update - there's too much room for error.

    The safest course of action now is to let it install the Creators Update. You may well find that it's not that much different from what you're used to. If so, relax and leave it alone. If you do find you'd like to go back to your old system, then for the next 10 days you have the option to return to your previous build. After that the windows.old folder will automatically be deleted and you'll have to stay on 1703.
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  5.    10 Jul 2017 #25
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    When you say you don't need anything that the CU offers, I think you're being short sighted. There's a lot in the CU that isn't broadly advertised in those "What's new in CU" articles. A lot of under the hood things that make your computer stay protected from Ransomware attacks and other kinds of malware, for instance.

    I still find new stuff in the CU that I hadn't noticed before, and I've been using it a long time.
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  6.    11 Jul 2017 #26
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    Ok, thanks Bree and Mystere.
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  7.    11 Jul 2017 #27
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    Discovered something interesting, well to me at least. Bree,when I said there were the 2 options, I assumed it was because PC was waitingto install Creator 1703. Actually it turned out to be Framework 4.7 W10 Version1607 KB3186568 in waiting and 1703 is still in Hidden Updates when looking withWUSHOWHIDE.
    At least I haven’t been rushed into 1703 and I can installlater if/when I choose to, using WUSHOWHIDE – correct?
    Thanks for your time everybody.

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  8.    11 Jul 2017 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by JW05 View Post
    At least I haven’t been rushed into 1703 and I can installlater if/when I choose to, using WUSHOWHIDE – correct?
    Correct. If you unhide 1703 windows update will download and install it. Because you have been offered it already you know that your PC has passed Microsoft's compatibility tests so it should install without problems.

    If you do decide to try 1703, rather than relying on windows update, I would recommend using the Media Creation Tool to download the install media either as a .ISO or as a USB. A manual upgrade tends to be more reliable than using windows update, with the advantages that you get to choose the time of the upgrade, plus you get to keep the install media for later use.

    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10
    Download Windows 10 ISO File

    In File Explorer, either mount the .ISO or plug in the USB then run the Setup.exe you'll find on it to begin the upgrade.

    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade
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  9.    14 Jul 2017 #29
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    A couple of days ago I got a final popup insisting that I reset my security setting to prepare for the creator's update, they only showed around five settings that I just left as they were. Just now I got a popup saying the update was ready for download and did I want them to restart my computer now or set a time. I set a time today for late at night when I'll be off the computer. Keeping my fingers crossed that the download will be smooth and not cause me any problems.
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  10.    14 Jul 2017 #30
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    Windows 10 Pro Build 1703

    You will be fine. Let us know either way.

    Ken
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