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  1.    31 May 2017 #1
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 165
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

    Creators Update and Windows 10 Home


    Hello,

    I have two laptops with Win10 Home that I update only sometimes (because the WU service is disabled and because I do when I want to do it).

    I just update it and everything was fine but it didn't download the CU patch. Also, I try to force the "Search for updates" but nothing, it says that it's updated. In fact, they updated all the patches of may 2017.

    How it works with the CU patch? You have to apply it manually? I was understand that the manually choosing was only for the PRO edition of Win 10.

    Thank you...
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  2.    31 May 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,980
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hello, disregarding what you are doing with Windows update, and presuming you have the Anniversary Edition (you don't say which build is installed) then:

    MS rolls out each major build over a period of several months. Just think of the huge load on the net and on their servers if they tried to deliver it to everyone.

    MS prioritises 'low risk' 'new' computers in some manner.

    It may take a couple of months before you are offered the upgrade.

    Yes, on any Win 10 PC you can download it and upgrade manually. In fact, that is my definite preference.
    Why? It's under my control.
    1. I update my disk image of my existing PC. That means I can restore my PC to the same working state it was in from that disk image if something goes wrong.
    2. I create a bootable medium of the new build of Win 10.
    Why? Because it can be used
    - to upgrade several PCs
    - for repair purposes
    - to reinstall
    - to reattempt the upgrade if it fails.

    (We strongly and repeatedly recommend the routine use of disk imaging e.g. Macrium Reflect (free) - you can than recover quite quickly even from a failed disk or ransomware without technical help, not to mention user error).

    3. I disconnect any unnecessary peripherals, disable my AV, remove one utility I know will conflict.

    4. I attempt the upgrade. I prefer to do this without the complication of downloading additional updates at the same time. I will do that subsequently.

    A note on restricting Windows updates in general
    I set mine to 'notify only' - that is, I get a notification that if there is one to download.
    (See Winaero's free tweaker with full explanation of the group policy/registry changes)
    I can then do that when I want. Never an unexpected download or restart.

    As I have Win 10 Pro, I have 'Defer feature updates' active, as I wish to stay with the AU for now.
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  3.    31 May 2017 #3
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,373
    Windows 10 Pro

    You can download CU from here:
    Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File)
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  4.    31 May 2017 #4
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,490
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipppero2007 View Post
    I just update it and everything was fine but it didn't download the CU patch. Also, I try to force the "Search for updates" but nothing, it says that it's updated. In fact, they updated all the patches of may 2017.

    How it works with the CU patch?
    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    MS prioritises 'low risk' 'new' computers in some manner.

    It may take a couple of months before you are offered the upgrade.
    Further to that, if there is a known issue for a particular make or model of PC Microsoft place a block to prevent it being delivered through Windows Update to owners of those machines. The block will only be lifted when the issues have been addressed. For example...

    The first major rollout expansion was timed with our May monthly quality update that addressed known issues from user feedback, including the previously mentioned block for Bluetooth accessory connection issues: This issue is now resolved...
    Windows 10 Creators Update roll out on track and expanding

    ...and

    After fully detailing the scope of the issue and identifying all possible laptop models from this OEM that could be affected by the issue, we put a block in place to prevent affected retail users across the globe from attempting to install the Windows 10 Creators Update and hitting this upgrade failure.
    A Tale of Two Kernels

    So perhaps there's a good reason you are not seeing the Creators Update yet.
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  5.    03 Jun 2017 #5
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 165
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Hello, disregarding what you are doing with Windows update, and presuming you have the Anniversary Edition (you don't say which build is installed) then:

    MS rolls out each major build over a period of several months. Just think of the huge load on the net and on their servers if they tried to deliver it to everyone.

    MS prioritises 'low risk' 'new' computers in some manner.

    It may take a couple of months before you are offered the upgrade.

    Yes, on any Win 10 PC you can download it and upgrade manually. In fact, that is my definite preference.
    Why? It's under my control.
    1. I update my disk image of my existing PC. That means I can restore my PC to the same working state it was in from that disk image if something goes wrong.
    2. I create a bootable medium of the new build of Win 10.
    .
    Do you use media creator tool or oher method?
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  6.    03 Jun 2017 #6
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,980
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    I download a copy using media creator, then choose to burn it to a DVD.
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  7.    04 Jun 2017 #7
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    UK
    Posts : 2,091
    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipppero2007 View Post
    Hello,

    I have two laptops with Win10 Home that I update only sometimes (because the WU service is disabled and because I do when I want to do it).

    I just update it and everything was fine but it didn't download the CU patch. Also, I try to force the "Search for updates" but nothing, it says that it's updated. In fact, they updated all the patches of may 2017.

    How it works with the CU patch? You have to apply it manually? I was understand that the manually choosing was only for the PRO edition of Win 10.

    Thank you...
    Given all the problems reported with the CU reported on this forum (as usual for major MS updates), I would wait until the CU is offered by Windows Update for your PC. You could then install the CU using the Media Creation Tool or ISO file so the installation is under your control. I'm happy to wait for the CU in the vain hope that MS have fixed the most serious bugs and I will have a smooth upgrade.
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  8.    04 Jun 2017 #8
    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 165
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve C View Post
    Given all the problems reported with the CU reported on this forum (as usual for major MS updates), I would wait until the CU is offered by Windows Update for your PC. You could then install the CU using the Media Creation Tool or ISO file so the installation is under your control. I'm happy to wait for the CU in the vain hope that MS have fixed the most serious bugs and I will have a smooth upgrade.
    I want to follow your advice about the CU, for all my win 10 pcs.

    My main issue is the actual Anniversary has the Restore Point broken so I am in a confusion because I really use it everyday and the imaging tools I am triing these days has problems are not easy and immediate like it.
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  9.    04 Jun 2017 #9
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,980
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    If your error is 80070091 there is a workaround for that.

    It should not be necessary to use System Restore frequently, unless you are doing some sort of unusual testing, I suppose.
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  10.    04 Jun 2017 #10
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Houston
    Posts : 2,099
    3-Win-7Prox64 2-Win10Prox64

    Hi,
    I'd be using free macrium reflect for system images/ restore points personally
    Allot fewer issue plus a cleaner way to revert if there are
    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect Windows 10 Backup Restore Tutorials

    As far as the creators update well it is what it is slowly getting better
    I just installed it through the get it now link in windows updates on a 8-9 year old acer and it seems okay
    I've had it on a asus build for a while and still it was okay some little bumps with mostly corsair link and nvidia but it's okay most recent build that I know of although I rarely use 10
    Did use the acer's 10 for 3 months before this morning and it updated well.
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