Windows 10: Windows Update Lag Time Culprit Discovered. Solved

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  1.    30 May 2017 #1

    Windows Update Lag Time Culprit Discovered.


    I'm more than positive I have found out why Windows Update has not been working for a whole bunch of users. The last couple of months I have been monitoring the http://www.windowsupdate.com URL and discovered something very odd. Take a look at this screenshot:

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    Now at least 75% of the time, that website reports that http://www.windowsupdate.com is down for EVERYONE. Just take a look at my download speed from another screen capture that I took of the actual attempted download process:

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    Now it is no wonder why my update would take more than fourteen days at 13.5KB/sec.

    Furthermore, if I go to the Microsoft Update Catalog, the results mirror back to the source of http://www.windowsupdate.com and have the same lag in download speeds.

    Now what I want to know, is where is everyone getting their updates from if the server is down for everyone according to my very first screenshot and Microsoft Update Catalog mirrors back to http://www.windowsupdate.com?

    Is there an archive that is current with all the available updates for Version 1703 Build 15063.0? In other words, I know someone has to know of a third party vendor that distributes the updates or there would definitely be a whole lot more people trying to figure out why Microsoft's most important servers are down 75% of the time.
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  2. Posts : 5,804
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
       30 May 2017 #2

    I am sure Microsoft has an array of severs all around the world and all of the are quite busy at times. Their servers require maintenance at certain times so I would expect a certain % to be down at any point in time but not 75% of them.
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  3.    30 May 2017 #3

    Josey Wales said: View Post
    I am sure Microsoft has an array of severs all around the world and all of the are quite busy at times. Their servers require maintenance at certain times so I would expect a certain % to be down at any point in time but not 75% of them.

    Yes, fair enough, but do you know of an archived database that has the updates readily available?

    I found this one, but it hasn't been updated in 38 days as of the time-stamp of this post:

    Windows 10 Update Archive
    Last edited by EyeInTheSky; 30 May 2017 at 09:14. Reason: Additional thoughts.
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  4. Posts : 5,804
    64-bit Windows 10 Pro
       30 May 2017 #4

    EyeInTheSky said: View Post
    Yes, fair enough, but do you know of an archived database that has the updates readily available?

    I found this one, but it hasn't been updated in 38 days as of the time-stamp of this post:

    Windows 10 Update Archive
    Not sure if I would trust that data base.
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  5. Posts : 494
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       30 May 2017 #5

    I would not recommend getting Windows updates from any place but Microsoft.
    Know way of knowing what is in those updates from other places.
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  6.    31 May 2017 #6

    Josey Wales said: View Post
    Not sure if I would trust that data base.
    Layback Bear said: View Post
    I would not recommend getting Windows updates from any place but Microsoft.
    Know way of knowing what is in those updates from other places.
    I couldn't agree more with both of you on the trust of other databases for Genuine Microsoft Updates. I concede that the updates from other sources (regardless of a virus scan) could result in downloading bogus updates.

    I did find something rather interesting though:

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    If the "Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows." box is "checked", the updater throws out error codes and Windows Update doesn't search for updates properly. If it does find updates when that box is "checked", their download and install rate is usually a failure.

    When it is "unchecked" (as in my screenshot), Windows Update runs smoothly and has a way higher success rate of downloading and installing updates.

    I wonder why that is? I had read about this setting months before the "Creators Update" was even announced for release and after upgrading to Version 1703, I realized that setting had been altered; as in the box was checked without my permission.

    I know before the upgrade of the OS, it was stated specifically that my settings would not be altered; however, I had found several settings that Microsoft said would remain unchanged to be untrue. That is to be expected with a "in place upgrade" of an OS and I dealt with it accordingly and have been happy with the upgrade after I found out what had been altered without my permission.
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  7.    31 May 2017 #7

    I always use the first option. Can't recall having any troubles with the updates. I will test it when the next monthly updates arrive.
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  8.    31 May 2017 #8

    prikker said: View Post
    I always use the first option. Can't recall having any troubles with the updates. I will test it when the next monthly updates arrive.
    I'm wondering if it has anything to do with a computer being a laptop using the new UEFI or a desktop using the old school BIOS setup during the "in place upgrade" of the OS that changed my settings.
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  9.    31 May 2017 #9

    Could be, but i'm not an expert. I get all my knowlegde from users like you, this forum and the internet.
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  10. Posts : 2,865
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64
       31 May 2017 #10

    EyeInTheSky said: View Post
    Now it is no wonder why my update would take more than fourteen days at 13.5KB/sec.
    It is more likely, there is something with your connection/ISP/DNS/driver, etc.
    By the way, download domain is not the same as the one, you are checking out.
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