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  1.    02 Apr 2017 #31
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 109
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    Good idea. But not right I have two 970 and one 969 Problem still exists exactly the same on all three. It's getting annoying now, clearly world wide. BTW now it is GMT 8:15 AM (4:15 PM in Japan where I'm living currently.)
    It's been just about 3 days now.

    Sure, if we remember to manually update Defender, then run WU so it says, "Up to date." after updating defender manually there is no harm that I can imagine. But many people don't have a clue about this. Sure enough, my wifes laptop I checked a few hours ago. No update and loads of error messages since March 30 late (Japan time) There is no way she would have known. Like literally millions of others who 100% rely on MS automation.

    This doesn't bode well for up coming Creators update, if those folks at MS can't even fix this! In three days and counting. Actually I'm quite appualed by this because of the time line. Stuff happens, but shouldn't take days to fix one simple but major security flaw. Bad. Very bad indeed. And just when I thought MS were starting to get things together, this in excuse able incompetence occurs. Apologies guys, for the mini rant, I'm a feeling annoyed about this now and need a beer.

    Finally, this thread has been a big source of relieve for me with plenty of people updating status regularly. This is a good forum. Thank you to all who posted status and ideas. Keep em coming!!
    ^^^^^ What he said!
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  2.    02 Apr 2017 #32
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Posts : 5
    Windows 10 Home 1703 15063.11

    random thought
    So many different build versions experiencing this update phenomena, seems unlikely to me that it is related to the Creators Update and more likely a general Windows Update issue, specifically affecting Defender.
    Just a theory
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  3.    02 Apr 2017 #33
    Join Date : Mar 2016
    Posts : 153
    win 10 HOME

    still not completely working all green with one caveat Definitions out of date But is still protected? something is wrong says its up to date now but when i run update i get the error msg (not that YOU are uptodate) ? so i still don't have the warm and fuzzy that things are OK
    DME
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  4.    02 Apr 2017 #34
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Posts : 5
    Windows 10 Home 1703 15063.11

    presently, I try to update from inside Defender, it says it has failed, but if I just wait 50-60 seconds, the screen refreshes all by itself to the version number that previously indicated failure.
    kind of quirky, it seems to indicate failure, while updating at the same moment
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  5.    02 Apr 2017 #35
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 1,596
    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)

    It's not been affecting my machines but am absolutely disgusted with ms over this. They have been dropping cumulative updates left right and centre and breaking stuff all over the shop. Now this. Unfortunately they can't seem to be relied upon to get updates right. Maybe if they slowed down and stopped throwing them down the pipe at such a rate and actually stopped to do a bit of QA testing now and then we'd see less of this.
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  6.    02 Apr 2017 #36
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 16
    Win 10 Pro

    I installed Eset Nod32 for now, I just don't trust Defender right now. I can't even update in the Defender program itself anymore.
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  7.    02 Apr 2017 #37
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 109
    Windows 10

    I just checked 2 other desktops we have here and neither is having this problem. They are both Windows10 Home and are getting the definition updates normally thru WU. Very strange.

    Are we very sure that MS is aware of this problem?
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  8.    02 Apr 2017 #38
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Phoenix, AZ
    Posts : 243
    Windows 10 Pro 1709 16299.19

    I to started receiving this issue since Friday 31st of March. Got it again this am on 2 systems (HOME and PRO). I too am getting unhappy with ANY Window Update now. Decided to try the Window Update Trouble shooter. I was amazed of what it returned. See below:

    Issues found
    Some security settings are missing or have been changedSome security settings are missing or have been changed Fixed Fixed
    Reset security settings Completed

    Service registration is missing or corruptService registration is missing or corrupt Fixed Fixed
    Reset service registration Completed

    Potential Windows Update Database error detectedPotential Windows Update Database error detected
    Possible issues may prevent Windows Update from keeping your system up to date. Fixed Fixed
    Repair Windows Update Database Corruption Completed

    Windows Update components must be repairedWindows Update components must be repaired
    One or more Windows Update components are configured incorrectly. Fixed Fixed
    Repair Windows Update components Completed

    Potential issues that were checked
    Default Windows Update data locations have changedDefault Windows Update data locations have changed
    The location where Windows Update stores data has changed and must be repaired. Issue not present
    Check for missing or corrupt filesCheck for missing or corrupt files Issue not present
    System date and time aren't correctSystem date and time aren't correct Issue not present

    Issues found Detection details

    6 Some security settings are missing or have been changed Fixed Fixed

    Reset security settings Completed


    6 Service registration is missing or corrupt Fixed Fixed

    Reset service registration Completed


    6 Potential Windows Update Database error detected Fixed Fixed

    Possible issues may prevent Windows Update from keeping your system up to date.
    Repair Windows Update Database Corruption Completed

    One troubleshooting step to resolve WU issues is to delete and re-download updates to your computer. would you like to try this step now? Depending on your network configuration, you may incur download costs.
    InformationalDataStoreAndWULogFiles.zip
    60.22MB
    File Name: DataStoreAndWULogFiles.zip



    6 Windows Update components must be repaired Fixed Fixed

    One or more Windows Update components are configured incorrectly.
    Repair Windows Update components Completed

    Repairing Windows Update components frequently resolves common Windows Update errors.


    Potential issues that were checked Detection details

    Default Windows Update data locations have changed Issue not present

    The location where Windows Update stores data has changed and must be repaired.

    Check for missing or corrupt files Issue not present


    System date and time aren't correct Issue not present



    Detection details Expand

    InformationalNetwork Diagnostics Log
    File Name: 87143799-D41C-4C42-98E4-9DE8C745BF86.Diagnose.Admin.0.etl

    InformationalNetwork Diagnostics Log
    File Name: 27DE9776-C6C6-45C2-B258-C0C0B182C825.Diagnose.Admin.1.etl

    InformationalNetwork Diagnostics Log
    File Name: 0C46AD76-815C-4FF8-9B70-C833FCD977C8.Diagnose.Admin.2.etl

    InformationalOther Networking Configuration and Logs
    File Name: NetworkConfiguration.cab

    InformationalOther Networking Configuration and Logs
    File Name: NetworkConfiguration.cab

    InformationalOther Networking Configuration and Logs
    File Name: NetworkConfiguration.cab

    InformationalService Status
    Problem with BITS service : The requested service has already been started. More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2182.

    InformationalService Status
    Problem with BITS service : The requested service has already been started. More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2182.

    InformationalService Status
    Problem with BITS service : The requested service has already been started. More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 2182.

    Collection information
    Computer Name: DESKTOP-71LLIQU
    Windows Version: 10.0
    Architecture: x64
    Time: Sunday, April 2, 2017 5:20:05 AM


    The same report was returned on the other machine. This has to be a one of those "Windows Update" that broke "Windows Update" !



    Looks like its fixed, but won't know until another update comes thru.
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  9.    02 Apr 2017 #39
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 28,953
    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by storageman View Post
    I to started receiving this issue since Friday 31st of March. Got it again this am on 2 systems (HOME and PRO). I too am getting unhappy with ANY Window Update now. Decided to try the Window Update Trouble shooter. I was amazed of what it returned. See below:


    Looks like its fixed, but won't know until another update comes thru.
    Ran that troubleshooter

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    Rebooted, and get this.......oh, well..... What's the link for the manual update?

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  10.    02 Apr 2017 #40
    Join Date : Sep 2015
    Posts : 109
    Windows 10

    I sure am glad this forum is here to share this info, otherwise can you imagine the steps we'd be taking to try and fix this mess. Thanks to all for the continuing reports.
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