Windows 10: Activation troubleshooting

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  1.    2 Days Ago #31

    mikiep said: View Post
    fwiw,
    Bought a used laptop off ebay with near matching chipset as my existing Sandy Bridge chipset so I could move my cpu, ram, ssd's into it when mine gives up the ghost. Guy had 50 listed for sale $50 area so I bought 2. They arrived... you'd swear they looked brand new. Fans had minimal dust, no signs of wear on anything.

    Anyhow, no hdd, no ram, no ac adapter T520 ThinkPads... no coa stickers .. I loaded enterprise eval as a local Mike account which was 90 days x 3 resets,, 270 days total . Think I had 45 days remaining of last slmgr /rearm.
    Then win10 creators insider iso became available, so I installed it with a double click of the iso keeping nothing and got the not activated message until I did my first Microsoft login to my email probably, magically it instantly at next restart required Mike local login to change the PIN to 6 digit for proper encryption and windows activated. Slmgr shows its lifetime activated... I cant discover a key with the ShowKeyPlus.. key shows as just a bunch of b's.

    I'm guessing here, but looks like the win10 enterprise eval version gave the ebay T520 laptop the win10 activation to my Microsoft account.
    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Enterprise won't ever get a Digital License, local or Microsoft Account. Enterprise is VL only and only activates with MAK or KMS keys. Also, you don't have to log in with, or even have a Microsoft Account to activate Windows 10. It can be installed and activated with a local account. I have no idea what happened in your case but its not a normal occurrence.
    *** @mikiep, @alphanumeric - I brought these posts here as we were hijacking that thread.***

    This is an interesting phenomenon. I have heard of KMS (Volume licence) installations being upgraded and resulting in digital licences with a MAK ( NB: The BBBB in ShowKeyPlus represents a masked MAK)

    I had ungraded my work notebook from Win 10 Pro 10240 activated with a MAK to AU and got this :

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    That's the generic MAK I was alluding to - and it has digital licence.

    Thus the official blurb regarding VL not qualifying seems odd.. why else have a generic MAK then...very strange....
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       2 Days Ago #32

    There is a difference between the MAK licence and a VL which will need "phone Home" activation at regular intervals, (was every 90 days but may have changed), Not sure if this is a factor here. The Microsoft partner licences, (in House software Licence), were MAK key activated in the past and they will upgrade to a Digital licence (even one linked to a Microsoft account), without a problem, the same as any other Retail licence
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  3.    2 Days Ago #33

    Barman58 said: View Post
    There is a difference between the MAK licence and a VL which will need "phone Home" activation at regular intervals, (was every 90 days but may have changed), Not sure if this is a factor here. The Microsoft partner licences, (in House software Licence), were MAK key activated in the past and they will upgrade to a Digital licence (even one linked to a Microsoft account), without a problem, the same as any other Retail licence
    Yip, correct ... MAK is a permanent VL, whereas GVLK is temporary and requires re-activation via KMS within each 180 day activation interval.

    My concern, however, is that... be it MAK or GVLK, both are VL and should not be getting digital licences.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       2 Days Ago #34

    I actually see a MAK as a form of Retail Licence rather than a form of GVLK and It would appear that Microsoft, ( at least at present, but we all know how soon MS can change the rules), are treating the MAK as a Standard retail, possibly due to the fact that you cannot easily tell those MAK's issued to VL customers from those issued to other legitimate users.
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  5.    2 Days Ago #35

    Well just for fun I did a change key on my 10 Pro 1703 install and entered my MSDN 10 Enterprise MAK key. It upgraded and shows as activated with a Digital License linked to my Microsoft account.

    Tried it on a second PC and it didn't work. It was 10 Home 1703. MAK key was rejected via change key. Entered the generic Pro key and it upgraded to pro though, and activated with a DL it already had. Then tried my MAK key again and it was accepted, upgraded but won't activate? That PC won't activate with my MAK key now? I get a "Windows can't activate with this product key, 0xc004b100. Was able to go back to 10 Pro by entering the Pro generic key though. Now shows activated with a digital license.

    Worked once and failed once.
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       2 Days Ago #36

    Going back to the early days of Windows 8 RTM, October/November 2012, you could upgrade trial Enterprise Windows 8 versions with genuine retail ESD Windows 8 Pro upgrade downloads (I had a £14.99 retail offer with my Windows 7 Laptop in August).

    There were "Qualifying OSs" - in my case OEM Windows 7 Home Premium enabling ordering and payment, then download of the ESD package with the product key in the email, and then there were "upgradeable OSs" - Windows 7 (any), and some later Windows 8 Pro trials and Windows 8 Enterprise trials too. I don't remember which other OSs were upgradeable, or which were qualifying - it may have been that XP SP3 was qualifying, but not upgradeable etc.

    The upgrades seemed to be able to gather the Product Key from somewhere (a PID.txt perhaps included when the ESD download took place?), it was a bit of a mystery at the time, as was the nature of the ESD file, since it could not be opened or mounted like a WIM file then. These were my notes at the time on Eightforums:

    How did you setup your Win 8 install? - Page 16

    I was not prepared to dump 7 yet 8 was too strange at the time.
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  7.    13 Hours Ago #37

    Om my last PC running 10 Pro, the one that wouldn't activate with slmgr /ato, I mounted my Enterprise MSDN ISO and ran setup.exe, figured it may be easier than starting all over with a clean install. If it didn't work I'd just clean install. Booted up real slow and to a totally blank screen? Just a cursor. A couple of reboots latter it appears normal again? Entered my MAK and got a 0xc004b100 error. Running slmgr /ato changed it to a 0xC004F012 error. What finally fixed it was going to Setup >update & security >activation and running the trouble shooter. I clicked the "I have recently changed hardware" option and it activated with a DL. Confused, I am?

    I now have 3 PC's that all have Home, Pro, Education and Enterprise Digital Licenses.
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