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       #151

    alphanumeric said:
    Don't even get me started about Dona. Must be nice to get paid to spend all day on social media. That's the perception I get anyway.

    You may have noticed my MVP badge is gone. I decided to not apply to be renewed this year. I'm good until July but I had Brink pull my badge anyway. I just don't like the way the "Insider" MVP program is being run, more like not run to be honest. Not all that happy with some of the things Microsoft is doing, and again not doing.

    I brought up a few issues on Microsoft's private Yammer group, MAK keys getting a DL was one of them, and got no official replay from anybody at Microsoft. Just other MVP's saying really?

    I really don't think the left hand knows what the right hand is doing.
    Good on you bud...! We need more of your ilk!
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       #152

    alphanumeric said:
    Don't even get me started about Dona. Must be nice to get paid to spend all day on social media. That's the perception I get anyway.

    You may have noticed my MVP badge is gone. I decided to not apply to be renewed this year. I'm good until July but I had Brink pull my badge anyway. I just don't like the way the "Insider" MVP program is being run, more like not run to be honest. Not all that happy with some of the things Microsoft is doing, and again not doing.

    I brought up a few issues on Microsoft's private Yammer group, MAK keys getting a DL was one of them, and got no official replay from anybody at Microsoft. Just other MVP's saying really?

    I really don't think the left hand knows what the right hand is doing.
    Look at that. I knew something was off when looking at your posts, but I could just not figure out what it was. --> THE MVP badge is missing. That explains.


    I have a feeling that all limbs and tentacles are severed from each other, and none of them know anything of each other. The head is doing one thing and the rest are doing their separate individual things, not knowing anything of the others doings. Can easily happen in large corporations. The body is still there though, keeping it all somewhat together, so there's some hope left.
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       #153

    My biggest beef is the constant change just for the sake of change, and not tidying up the loose ends or making it more stable. Patch Tuesday seems more often than not to end up being crash Tuesday.
    Anyway I'll let this go now. Once this delayed new build drops, I plan on doing another round of clean installs. 10 Home to start off. Then do upgrades to Pro etc via change product codes. I'll try the generic keys first. My PC's all have DL's for just about every Edition so the generic keys "should work". If I still have access to My Visual Studio Subscription (doesn't officially run out until July) I'll download the VL ISO and play with that. Start with Pro then move on to Education and Enterprise. I'll try the generic VL keys first. I want to see if I have to enter my MAK key to activate or if it will use the DL. I also want to see if Pro auto activates with the DL I already have. I don't think I ever activated Pro with my MAK key. I'm pretty sure I haven't but not 100% sure. I keep saying I should be keeping notes, lol. Maybe this time I'll actually do it. :)
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  4. Posts : 3,453
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       #154

    Problem is developing is not being managed properly

    They have Donna tweeting meaningless social media crap while the "brains-trust" have a "see-what-happens" attitude .. it's unbecoming - a professional organisation will relate to their customers ...
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       #155

    Problem is developing is not being managed properly


    Totally Agree.

    As for Dona's tweets do like looking for the hints

    mind you the aka MS/tribbles tag
    Ever watch Star Trek - the troubles with Tribbles episode
    They went from being a few cute little creatures to a out of control hoard

    Roy
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       #156

    hawkman said:
    Problem is developing is not being managed properly


    Totally Agree.

    As for Dona's tweets do like looking for the hints

    mind you the aka MS/tribbles tag
    Ever watch Star Trek - the troubles with Tribbles episode
    They went from being a few cute little creatures to a out of control hoard

    Roy
    LOL...gonna d/l and watch it quick
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       #157

    hawkman said:
    Problem is developing is not being managed properly


    Totally Agree.

    As for Dona's tweets do like looking for the hints

    mind you the aka MS/tribbles tag
    Ever watch Star Trek - the troubles with Tribbles episode
    They went from being a few cute little creatures to a out of control hoard

    Roy
    Watched this one but they do not get horrible? Star Trek The Trouble With Tribbles Clip - YouTube

    BTW: Why does Spock remind me of @Brink?
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  8. Posts : 5,478
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       #158

    Superfly said:
    @alphanumeric
    Weired hey? I got a DL with a generic MAK on an upgrade from a Win 10 Pro MAK once... Makes nonsense of VL.
    If you convert from Pro to ProWS via the store you get a MAK and digital entitlement also.

    Activation troubleshooting-x201-windows-diagnostic-tool.png

    If however you aren't signed into your MS account and convert by putting in the generic key, you don't.

    Activation troubleshooting-capture.png

    But both report activation is due to the 0x4004F401 store license and both have Digital Entitlement.

    Windows licensing logic is indeed very mysterious.
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       #159

    @lx07 weird that they give you a MAK key for that? What's to stop you from using that key on more than one PC? I mean it is a Multiple Activation Key. I could be wrong, but my understanding is they can be used on multiple PC just like VL keys are.
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       #160

    alphanumeric said:
    @lx07 weird that they give you a MAK key for that? What's to stop you from using that key on more than one PC? I mean it is a Multiple Activation Key. I could be wrong, but my understanding is they can be used on multiple PC just like VL keys are.
    Yep! It's a tangled web ....Having tested various MAK's the minimum activation count was 5 (IIRC)

    Strike that found one with 2

    Code:
    Key Status        : Valid
    PID            : 00328-20480-47061-AA626
    Extended PID        : 03282-03282-048-047061-03-2057-17134.0000-1172018
    Active SKU ID        : b4bfe195-541e-4e64-ad23-6177f19e395e
    Product Description    : Win 10 RTM Education Volume:MAK
    Edition ID        : Education
    Part Number        : [TH]X19-98680
    Product Key Channel    : Volume:MAK
    Eula Type        : Volume
    Group ID        : 3282
    MAK Count        : 2
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