Windows 10: A possible solution to stop Win10 from auto-rebooting after updates.

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  1. Posts : 2,288
    Windows 10.3 Home 1703 x64 (Home per choice)
       01 Nov 2016 #21

    I have looked at the suggestion by WinaeroTweaker and I wonder, if it is gonna to work.

    Disabling task "Check for updates" prevented scheduled check for updates.
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan" /Disable
    ren "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan" "Schedule Scan.bak"
    md "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan"
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan" /Disable
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\Scheduled Start" /Disable
    ren "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\Scheduled Start" "Scheduled Start.bak"
    md "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\Scheduled Start"
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\Scheduled Start" /Disable


    rem Disable Reboot after Windows Updates are installed
    rem winaero.com/blog/how-to-permanently-stop-windows-10-reboots-after-installing-updates
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot" /Disable
    ren "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot" "Reboot.bak"
    md "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot"
    schtasks /Change /TN "Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot" /Disable

    Here is more advanced version, which runs at every startup - ' Disable-W10-Update-Reboots.bat
    Last edited by TairikuOkami; 16 Feb 2017 at 15:02.
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  2. Posts : 9
    Windows 10 Home 64
       01 Nov 2016 #22

    PLEASE report when you techy gurus come up with a solution that's been tested and definitely works. Then make it idiot-proof so I can not only run it but back out of it if needed? I've always run 24/7, previously controlling when I do restarts... AND I DO want the OS updates and up-to-date virus protection.

    My current defenses:

    1. Enabled AUTOMATIC LOGIN after a restart. Unfortunately anyone can now get into my computer; but if there's an unattended forced restart I need to be up and running as soon as possible to avoid further data loss. (For me, Microsoft's attempt to make our computers more secure has achieved the opposite result)

    2. Running "Don'tSleep" which does what the name implies. Reports are that it doesn't work since Windows update "service" now overrides software settings and forces restarts anyway.

    3. Running "MouseJiggler" which prevents computer from entering idle state. (enable jiggle, green arrow sends to systray) A short test let me know that a pending update was still waiting to be downloaded and would proceed when the computer was idle. But since I chickened out and did a manual download/restart when it wouldn't affect scheduled tasks, I don't know if or how long MouseJiggler would work until/if Windows forced the issue.
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  3.    07 Nov 2016 #23

    Well, the ol' PC rebooted by itself. NJC2's XML task was in place and active.

    Updates were prepared on 10/28/2016 and "reboot required" flags popped up every morning for the next week. On 11/6/2016 I remoted in via UltraVNC to find a clean desktop, and Event Viewer showed a reboot on 11/5 at 6:33 PM, just outside my preset active hours of 6AM-6PM.

    The task held off updates for a week, but somehow Windows got round it. Maybe a three-minute timer, or just let the task run even when not idle? I will try running the task at startup, every three minutes, indefinitely, and report back.
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  4. Posts : 26
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64
       07 Nov 2016 #24

    This article mentioned about a software called ShutdownGuard Avoid accidental and automatic shut down or restart with ShutdownGuard

    Not sure if it is better than Don't Sleep or not.
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  5. Posts : 9
    Windows 10 Home 64
       07 Nov 2016 #25

    scottgus1 said: View Post
    The task held off updates for a week, but somehow Windows got round it. Maybe a three-minute timer, or just let the task run even when not idle? I will try running the task at startup, every three minutes, indefinitely, and report back.
    Thanks! Keep us in the loop! But for my purposes If that's the case, and if Windows will give those warnings consistently in the future, your experiment resulting in flags popping up for a week is a definite improvement over what we have now. I DO want the updates, and with warnings I could then find a task-free time to take care of it manually. (Currently my only experience with a forced reboot caused irretrievable data loss since it came without any warning whatsoever. )

    comcom: I think "ShutdownGuard" will have the same issues "DontSleep" has: the ability for Windows to easily override it. Unlike "DontSleep" it even comes with a warning: "It is important to note that ShutdownGuard is not 100% foolproof. Windows or apps still have the ability to override it if they force the shutdown." "MouseJiggler" as I stated above, keeps the system from going into idle, thus a pending update download on my computer was definitely delayed. BUT... I don't know how long it would have held off the download. Fearing more data loss, I chickened out and did the download/restart manually.
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  6. Posts : 2,288
    Windows 10.3 Home 1703 x64 (Home per choice)
       08 Nov 2016 #26

    dalchina said: View Post
    Winaero's tweaker offers an option to stop reboots. It sets up a task as you can see here:
    How to permanently stop Windows 10 reboots after installing updates

    Intriguingly, although I've not used that, and I've had on occasion a restart following an update pending and active hours period has expired, and I've waited to see if a restart occurred, I've never experienced an unscheduled restart.
    Yes, that did it, the scheduled reboot did not occur (on 2 computers).

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  7. Posts : 26
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64
       08 Nov 2016 #27

    TairikuOkami said: View Post
    Yes, that did it, the scheduled reboot did not occur (on 2 computers).

    After following the steps in that article, what if you want everything to be back to default again? What steps to do?

    The article only teaches how to stop reboots.
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  8.    09 Nov 2016 #28

    Hi, if you read what I posted about Winaero's tweaker, the answer is a checkbox away.
    Click image for larger version. 

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  9. Posts : 26
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64
       09 Nov 2016 #29

    dalchina said: View Post
    Hi, if you read what I posted about Winaero's tweaker, the answer is a checkbox away.
    Click image for larger version. 

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    The article is simply the explanation, obtained by clicking on See in detail....
    Where did you post about Winaero's tweaker? I have gone through this thread again but I did not find your post about Winaero's tweaker.

    It looks good, does it mean just tick the box in your screenshot to stop windows 10 reboots, and untick to return to default? Does it work every time?
    Thanks.
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  10.    09 Nov 2016 #30

    Winaero's tweaker offers an option to stop reboots. I
    Winaero is reliable.
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