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  1.    29 Sep 2016 #11
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    MM's instructions are spot-on and correct. A few months ago I had to update some never used client laptops that had Windows 7 installed on them. I manually downloaded and ran the updates that she mentioned prior to executing Windows update itself, and every single one of them finished without issue.
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  2.    30 Sep 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoxieMomma View Post
    Hi, @Steffan:
    the 3 patches that seem to fix this for a new Win7 install are:

    3125574
    3020369
    3172605

    So, first, download and save the standalone installers for those 3 KBs.
    Then, if it's "stuck" in perpetual "checking for updates" or "downloading updates" mode, you'll need to disable WU from services.msc (change to manual and then stop the service) and change the WU settings to "never check for updates" in the WU applet and then reboot. (Some users have also found it necessary to disconnect from the internet, but I did not find that to be the case on my 2 Win7 boxes.)
    That should permit those 3 patches to install.
    You'll need to reboot again when done.
    Then, go back to services.msc and change WU back to Automatic (delayed start) and go back to WU settings and change it to "notify but do not install".
    Do a manual update check and see what patches are now available....
    Everything should work OK now.
    MM
    Out of those 3 patches, one is W7 SP1, which I already have (as it says in the thread title), and the other two I managed to download, when I run them absolutely nothing happens, so now I will disable the services and reboot.
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  3.    30 Sep 2016 #13
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    Problem:
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    Tried it twice and the result is same.

    edit OK, so I ignored this, since it just says stopping but nothng changes, so I restarted it and pulled out the wifi antenna, after I ran the KB3020369 and KB3172605, they both installed in less than a minute!
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    Then, the computer rebooted, and now I re-set the service to delayed start and I set W.U. to Check but ask whether to download and install, now I am waiting to see if any updates will be found...
    Last edited by Steffan; 30 Sep 2016 at 05:29.
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  4.    30 Sep 2016 #14
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    Ok, it shows 242 important updates now!
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    Should I now change to download and install automatically, also a the services, should it be without "delayed"?

    Ok, so I returned the settings to automatically, it's downloading now, we'll see if it all gets installed successfully...
    Last edited by Steffan; 30 Sep 2016 at 05:46. Reason: update
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  5.    30 Sep 2016 #15
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    Two of the important updates are unselected for donwload, .NET Framework and this one:
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    Should I leave it that way?
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  6.    30 Sep 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CmmTch View Post
    I bought a refurbished laptop through newegg before the free upgrade to W10 expired, it's a Dell Latitude E6420 and had Win 7 Pro. It was purchased specifically to upgrade to W10 while it was still free.

    Anyway, before the upgrade I wanted to update Win 7, it was just checking for updates and never moving along. I left it up the rest of the afternoon and all night, the next morning it had near 200 updates waiting to be installed. Seems it was just a matter of leaving it up long enough.

    IMO MS is using social engineering by making it hard on any user that isn't upgrading to W10, just my opinion.

    Try leaving it up for as long as you can and see what happens.
    You got lucky, from what I've seen. I did a clean install of 7 sp1 just to test how Windows update worked, or didn't work. After several reboots and retries, I left mine running on check for updates for 3 days and nada. It would not update, just a continuous checking for updates. It's a known wide spread problem that in most cases requires manual intervention to resolve.
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  7.    30 Sep 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I did a clean install of 7 sp1 just to test how Windows update worked, or didn't work. After several reboots and retries, I left mine running on check for updates for 3 days and nada. It would not update, just a continuous checking for updates. It's a known wide spread problem that in most cases requires manual intervention to resolve.
    Yes, I had a similar experience doing an OEM factory reset to Win7 SP1 on my laptop.

    The key to getting it to check for updates in a prompt fashion was to install KB3125574 (the Convenience Rollup) and then do a Disk Clean-up and tick the Windows Update Clean-up. This last point is important as it removes all obsolete updates (this in itself speeds up the check-for-updates process - there's less to check).

    On my machine before installing KB3125574 SYSTEMINFO reported: 267 Hotfix(s) Installed.
    After KB3125574 it was: 268 Hotfix(s) Installed.
    After Windows Update Clean-up it was: 122 Hotfix(s) Installed.

    NB: Windows Update Clean-up requires a restart to complete the process. First it says 'Windows is configuring updates' and then there's a time consuming 'Cleaning up...' screen before the restart is complete.

    For me that reduced 'checking for updates' from 'hours' down to 1 minute 20 seconds.
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  8.    30 Sep 2016 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steffan View Post
    Two of the important updates are unselected for donwload, .NET Framework and this one:
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    Should I leave it that way?
    Windows update will do that if those updates need to be installed separately from the rest. Let it do all the others, reboot, and run Windows update again. Odds are this time they will be checked for install the second time around.
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  9.    30 Sep 2016 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Windows update will do that if those updates need to be installed separately from the rest. Let it do all the others, reboot, and run Windows update again. Odds are this time they will be checked for install the second time around.
    Now I think one of the updates is causing a problem... I got a Nvlddmkm.sys bluescreen a few minutes ago. This is the same error I had before reinstalling... But hey, at least I have all the latest updates!
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  10.    30 Sep 2016 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steffan View Post
    Now I think one of the updates is causing a problem... I got a Nvlddmkm.sys bluescreen a few minutes ago. This is the same error I had before reinstalling... But hey, at least I have all the latest updates!
    You could try can uninstalling one or both to see if your BSOD goes away. Then set them to hide in Windows update so they don't install again.
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