1. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,923
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       17 Sep 2016 #1

    nightflyer said: View Post
    I had to upgrade my hdd to a 6TB from a 3TB and it worked but what if you mobo goes out in warranty...
    diff serial on the mobo may not be recognized by digital license. It never hurts to have it just in case.
    Just so you understand(I realize reading a post is not the same as hearing it verbal) I wasn't trying to be snooty.
    I keep all my keys, Windows and 3rd party, in a folder, synced to all my systems on OneDrive, and in a backup of my libraries on an external HDD, that sits in my closet, plus written down in a little green book.
    For such important data there is no such thing as enough redundancy
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  2. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,434
    Windows10
       17 Sep 2016 #2

    nightflyer said: View Post
    if you have the free version of windows 10 from Microsoft
    some how get the activation key write it down and copy past to text file and save off of your puter like on a thumb drive also print it out you may be able to get it in the devices on your Microsoft account or in the registry if you know how or you may need a 3rd party program. this way if all else fails and you have to do a clean re install you have your key.it wont always show on your Microsoft account as it may say "to be filled by OEM"
    You obviously do not understand how the free upgrades work.

    This tip is absolutely no use for free upgrades, as the product key is only a generic one.

    You get a digital licence tied to the hardware id and this is registered with MS and you do not even need a key to reinstall.
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  3. Joined : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 1,132
    10 Home x64 (1607), Pro x86 (1511 & 1607)
       17 Sep 2016 #3

    cereberus said: View Post
    You get a digital licence tied to the hardware id and this is registered with MS and you do not even need a key to reinstall.
    Yes. You can (and I have) put a new HDD in a machine that's previously had the free upgrade activated, do a clean install and the activation servers will activate it automatically. Microsoft are on record as saying:

    “For Windows 10, we have factored out the hard drive in regard to licensing,”
    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...tions-answered

    If you get asked for a key while installing, just click 'I don't have one' to carry on.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    Newport, South Wales, UK
    Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10 Pro x64 - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       17 Sep 2016 #4

    Also if you sign in with your Microsoft account, the digital licence is also tied to your Account in addition to your hardware ID.

    This, it has been stated, By Microsoft, is capable of re-licensing a Windows 10 system where the motherboard had "died". No mention has been made of this not applying to OEM systems so it may be worth doing this by default even on these systems which are not normally recoverable if a Motherboard died.
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  5. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,434
    Windows10
       17 Sep 2016 #5

    Barman58 said: View Post
    Also if you sign in with your Microsoft account, the digital licence is also tied to your Account in addition to your hardware ID.

    This, it has been stated, By Microsoft, is capable of re-licensing a Windows 10 system where the motherboard had "died". No mention has been made of this not applying to OEM systems so it may be worth doing this by default even on these systems which are not normally recoverable if a Motherboard died.
    You have to have AU 1607 installed of course, but yeah - this is interesting as oem is a grey area. According to EULA, it is not permitted to transfer digital licence but I am certain the digital licence carries no history of its origin ie you have one or you do not - no retail or oem distinction.

    My conclusion is that MS had to produce a tool to allow users who upgraded from retail windows 7/8 to be able to transfer digital licences to comply with their own EULA. In the free period, this was not an issue. However, I think any digital licence can be transferred as MS do not have any way of knowing if original was retail or oem.

    A second conclusion is MS probably do not really care as the number of people this pertains to is a drop in the ocean compared to total number of installs. It would probably cost far more to put rigorous checks in place than the minor revenue loss.

    I think all MS care about is keeping people on the W10 ecosphere. I think this is borne out by the fact that there does not seem to be any time limit any more on running unactivated versions of Windows 10 either.
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