Windows 10: KB3035583 update for Windows 7/8.1 systems

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  1. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       04 Jun 2015 #21

    TopGeek said: View Post
    Well, 8.1 updates are received automatically so perhaps the second suggestion is the one that counts. It seems strange though that there is no way to know if the assessment has been made. Win 8.1 functionality seems fine so I would have thought Win 10 would also function on that PC.
    Sorry, I think I worded that poorly. If the assessment fails you will not get the notification to register. I don't know how it reports the results of the assessment - maybe in event viewer, but that's a guess.

    After reading the FAQ bullet below, it looks as though you don't even get the gwx.sys app displayed on your taskbar.

    I agree with you, if you're running Win8, you should be able to run Win10.

    Take a look through these pages to see if anything stands out that matches your machine. There are CPU instructions sets that are required (can't recall them right now):
    Windows 10 Specifications - Microsoft
    Windows 10 FAQ Tips - Microsoft

    Why don’t I have the Get Windows 10 app?

    If you don’t see the Get Windows 10 app on your PC, it might be because:

    Your device isn’t up-to-date with at least Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update.
    Windows Update is turned off or is not set to received updates automatically.
    You’ve blocked or uninstalled the necessary Windows Update functionality.
    Your device is not running genuine Windows.
    Running Windows Update and installing any available updates will fix the first three issues. Need more help? Go to our Windows Community Forum.

    PCs that we determine cannot run Windows 10 will not see the Get Windows 10 app before July 29, 2015.

    After July 29, 2015, we’ll enable the icon in the system tray. This is to help ensure that you can easily check your PC’s compatibility if you choose.
    Try searching answers.microsoft to see if anyone over there has an answer - I'm stumped.


    Are you not seeing the app or not getting the notification to register.
    There's a good chance I misunderstood the issue on the Dell 3100.
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  2.    06 Jun 2015 #22

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Sorry, I think I worded that poorly. If the assessment fails you will not get the notification to register. I don't know how it reports the results of the assessment - maybe in event viewer, but that's a guess.

    After reading the FAQ bullet below, it looks as though you don't even get the gwx.sys app displayed on your taskbar.

    I agree with you, if you're running Win8, you should be able to run Win10.

    Take a look through these pages to see if anything stands out that matches your machine. There are CPU instructions sets that are required (can't recall them right now):
    Windows 10 Specifications - Microsoft
    Windows 10 FAQ Tips - Microsoft



    Try searching answers.microsoft to see if anyone over there has an answer - I'm stumped.


    Are you not seeing the app or not getting the notification to register.
    There's a good chance I misunderstood the issue on the Dell 3100.
    Ha! To cap it all, the invitation appeared today so all is in order. Strange delay but such are the mysteries of MS notifications.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  3. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       07 Jun 2015 #23

    TopGeek said: View Post
    Ha! To cap it all, the invitation appeared today so all is in order. Strange delay but such are the mysteries of MS notifications.
    Thanks for the update. I knew some users reported a delay, but what I read was in the 30-40 minute range. It's good to know that it might take a day (or more?).

    There is a scheduled event that runs than Appraiser at login and also daily. Maybe the darn thing just needs to check the system a few times. Still nothing on my Win7 machine - I've dug fairly deep on that install, so I'm just going to wait until closer to RTM ... it's just a pre-registration option. It let's MS stage the install pieces, some of the Win10 bits deemed stable will be preloaded on the machine. This helps everyone - only the bits last touched by development will need to be downloaded on 29 July.
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  4.    07 Jun 2015 #24

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Thanks for the update. I knew some users reported a delay, but what I read was in the 30-40 minute range. It's good to know that it might take a day (or more?).

    There is a scheduled event that runs than Appraiser at login and also daily. Maybe the darn thing just needs to check the system a few times. Still nothing on my Win7 machine - I've dug fairly deep on that install, so I'm just going to wait until closer to RTM ... it's just a pre-registration option. It let's MS stage the install pieces, some of the Win10 bits deemed stable will be preloaded on the machine. This helps everyone - only the bits last touched by development will need to be downloaded on 29 July.
    This was more than a week so I presume there is some sort of broadcast algorithm. Maybe your Win 7 machine will still be selected at some stage.
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  5. Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       07 Jun 2015 #25

    TopGeek said: View Post
    This was more than a week so I presume there is some sort of broadcast algorithm. Maybe your Win 7 machine will still be selected at some stage.
    Yep, the scheduled task does it every day

    There are things that MS is working on that dis-qualifies a machine. In my case I believe it to be the AMD or 'missing' drivers (only two on this machine both are HP specific 'drivers'.)

    At some point MS will change the list of things to reflect what it deems to have been fixed. At that point the notification icon should appear. On 29 July, the Get Windows 10 icon (gwx) will show up on every machine, the Appraiser will run and test the machine, and hopefully a dialog or some better notification to the user is presented.

    Going to Event viewer to only find that your machine doesn't qualify isn't a lot of help if you're not told why.

    All of the stuff that comes out now still falls under a pre-release status ... the difference is that Win7 and Win8.1 are outside the scope of the Preview and people are seeing the icon or have heard about it - in this case MS should have made every effort to build a production Appraiser before putting it up in Windows Update.

    Messages are important
    "Hi, the Get Windows 10 Appraiser is running on your system to determine to if it qualifies for the FREE Windows 10 update when it is available on 29 Jul 2015.


    "Great! the Appraiser determined that your machine meets all of the pre-requirements. Your system will be updated automatically on 29 July 2015."

    They'll have to do better than: "Something went wrong!"
    "Your system does not meet the requirements at this time due to issues MS is still working on. MS will be working hard to fix all of these before the Current Build release date. The Appraiser is scheduled to run every day and at user login, so when things are fixed, the Get Windows 10 icon will appear in the notification area."

    "Your system does not meet the requirements. See gwxAppraiser.log in some folder for details about why your system did not qualify and if there is something you can change (CPU?, motherboard?, memory?...)"

    So anyway, I'll wait for MS to finish working on things and let the Appraiser test once a week (nothing special - I'll only fire up the box once a week ) If the gwx icon doesn't show up after 29 July, then I'll look deeper.
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  6.    11 May 2016 #26

    FWIW Windows 10 32-bit runs just fine on the Dell Dimension 3100.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
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