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  1. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 25
    Windows 7
       25 May 2016 #21

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    If you do a clean install of Windows 8.1, you will be prompted to upgrade to Windows 10 before you even log in for the first time.
    Thanks for sharing that. I hadn't planned to install 8.1, so I'm okay on that one.
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  2. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       25 May 2016 #22

    Budward said: View Post
    Thanks for sharing that. I hadn't planned to install 8.1, so I'm okay on that one.
    I have not seen your follow-up on Never10.
    Have you used essenbe's reply on post #15 ?

    In short, does it work ?
    I mean does it work for now ? I don't care how "temporary" it is, I am very much eager to know because I have many alumni not wanting to upgrade, period. So, I need to know if this will help.
    Thank you.
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  3. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 25
    Windows 7
       25 May 2016 #23

    davidhk said: View Post
    I have not seen your follow-up on Never10.
    Have you used essenbe's reply on post #15 ?
    Not yet. I'll probably run Never10 later today.

    I have opened Regedit and snooped a little. Found that neither of the two keys with the settings for the update even exist. My understanding is that Never10 adds the keys if it doesn't find them, then sets the values to say "do not install Win 10".
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  4. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       25 May 2016 #24

    Budward said: View Post
    Not yet. I'll probably run Never10 later today.

    I have opened Regedit and snooped a little. Found that neither of the two keys with the settings for the update even exist. My understanding is that Never10 adds the keys if it doesn't find them, then sets the values to say "do not install Win 10".
    Like some other cases, perhaps you need to create the new key ?
    I don't do much registry editing. My experience is limited.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,752
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       25 May 2016 #25

    You can create the key yourself and give it a value of 1. If the update is enabled, that key will not exist.

    DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade 1

    Add that key to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate
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  6. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 25
    Windows 7
       25 May 2016 #26

    In other news, I removed the KB3035583 update yesterday. From what I've been able to learn, this is the Win 10 updater.

    I have had my Windows Updates set to automatic. Last night, it found that I didn't have 3035583 any more and scheduled it for download, but didn't do the update. I'll just start checking routinely to see if it has sneaked it in anyway.

    For now, I've set Windows Update to "Check for updates and let me choose whether to download and install them". Probably going to leave it that way temporarily, until after 7/29. Yeah, I know the security concerns, etc. I'll take my chances for 2 months. I've got good AV software, so I'm not exactly naked.

    The main reason I've been leaving my PC on overnight is to run my backup software automatically at 3 AM. I'm temporarily going to run it manually every day when I finish work, then power off overnight.
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  7. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 25
    Windows 7
       25 May 2016 #27

    essenbe said: View Post
    If the update is enabled, that key will not exist.
    And that explains why Never10 reports that the update is enabled on my computer.

    Thanks.
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  8. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       25 May 2016 #28

    Budward said: View Post

    For now, I've set Windows Update to "Check for updates and let me choose whether to download and install them". Probably going to leave it that way temporarily, until after 7/29. Yeah, I know the security concerns, etc. I'll take my chances for 2 months. I've got good AV software, so I'm not exactly naked.
    Why is that a security concern ?
    When I ran Windows 7 Home Premium, that "Check for updates and let me choose whether to download and install them" was my setting. Never had any security issues.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,752
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       25 May 2016 #29

    If you download and install the Security Updates, you shouldn't. If you don't install them you will leave a vulnerability, but may be OK anyway. MS can remove that registry key with any update, any time it wants to. I would just check often and make sure.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,752
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       25 May 2016 #30

    I would hazard a guess that if you notice the $Windows.~BT Folder appear, you need to check the key again. You shouldn't get it with the update disabled.
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