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  1.    10 Jul 2016 #51
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    Well .... old age also makes you see NET FRAMEWORK when NET NATIVE FRAMEWORK is written

    Thanks for pointing it out - I try to read things as they are written, but the brian does what it wants with it.

    How many of each kind of animal did Moses bring on the ark?
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  2.    10 Jul 2016 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
    Well .... old age also makes you see NET FRAMEWORK when NET NATIVE FRAMEWORK is written

    Thanks for pointing it out - I try to read things as they are written, but the brian does what it wants with it.

    How many of each kind of animal did Moses bring on the ark?
    Probably a lot more than 2 since I'm sure that all got hungry <grin>!
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  3.    10 Jul 2016 #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoFine409 View Post
    Probably a lot more than 2 since I'm sure that all got hungry <grin>!
    Who was on the ark?

    I don't think it was Moses - some other guy perhaps

    The mind is a crazy place
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  4.    10 Jul 2016 #54
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    I kept looking at the question trying to figure out what about it was not right. Another 2 weeks and I would have gotten it!
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  5.    10 Jul 2016 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoFine409 View Post
    I kept looking at the question trying to figure out what about it was not right. Another 2 weeks and I would have gotten it!
    You know it was Noah, not Moses - right?
    You did get 2 right though - sort of. I'm not sure they brought more than two of each kind though
    - they probably ate the pairs of tasty animals
    I'd hate to cause 2 weeks of mind bending over one How the mind gets things wrong

    I guess it's time to get serious again, in case someone visiting the thread thinks:
    Am I still on Tenforums or did I somehow get to the Bedlam Royal Hospital site

    I enjoyed our chat - thanks again for pointing out my reading error (I'd be crooked if other people didn't keep me honest).
    If the update issue crops up again - we can take a different tact
    - one that directly addresses NET NATIVE FRAMEWORK
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  6.    11 Jul 2016 #56
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    Yes the .NET Native Framework relates to the Windows Universal Apps, not the standard software that uses .NET Framework. It resides in
    "C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Local\Packages" not in the "C\Windows\Microsoft.Net" area. The Universal App updates are separate from the standard Windows Updates and do not appear in the Windows Update History. It only shows in the Reliability Monitor.

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  7.    11 Jul 2016 #57
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    You might need to update Visual Studio if it is installed

    What's new for the .NET Native Compiler and Runtime in Visual Studio 2015 Update 2 | .NET Blog

    What’s new for the .NET Native Compiler and Runtime in Visual Studio 2015 Update 2

    April 18, 2016 by Stacey Haffner [MSFT] // 17 Comments
    Last week we released an update to the Visual Studio 2015 Tools for Universal Windows Apps (UWA). The release includes improvements across the libraries, runtime, and compiler. This means that development is faster and applications will be more responsive and easier to maintain. Applications such as NCAA March Madness Live and TuneIn Radio are already available in the Store built using our new .NET Native tools!
    Downloads | Visual Studio
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  8.    11 Jul 2016 #58
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    Good thought but I don't have VS installed on the problem PC. I have it on two other PCs but they're not experiencing the never ending updates. It does however have Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (x64). I wonder how I got that? I do have Office 2013 so I'm thinking it's installed with office. Maybe I did have VS installed at one time and then uninstalled it and the runtime was leftover. That could explain why I'm getting the SDK for XMAL updates as well.
    Update: it is in fact installed with Office 2010 and 2013.
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  9.    11 Jul 2016 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoFine409 View Post
    Good thought but I don't have VS installed on the problem PC. I have it on two other PCs but they're not experiencing the never ending updates. It does however have Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (x64). I wonder how I got that? I do have Office 2013 so I'm thinking it's installed with office. Maybe I did have VS installed at one time and then uninstalled it and the runtime was leftover. That could explain why I'm getting the SDK for XMAL updates as well.
    Update: it is in fact installed with Office 2010 and 2013.
    Well, there ya go - answered your own good questions with equally good answers.

    If there are leftovers - see if Revo uninstaller Free (scroll down to the free version on the page)
    Download Revo Uninstaller Freeware

    finds and cleans up the remnants.

    If it's VS tools for MSO runtime, see if selecting MSO in Programs and Features > Repair helps.

    All of the above is only necessary if the Net Native Framework Package is still offered as an update.
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  10.    11 Jul 2016 #60
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    I have MS Office 2010 (Home and Student Edition) installed with the Visual Studio Tools Runtime for 2010. I never had Visual Studio itself installed so it did apparently get installed with Office 2010. If have attached an image below of what I have on one of my computers.

    It is interesting that these two items (Office 2010 and Visual Studio Tools Runtime) indicate an installation date of 7/3/2016. I have noticed that this date gets changed for software even though no physical update occurs. There was no update for Office on that day, only one of the many .NET Native Framework updates for v1.2.23205 since 7/1. The subsequent .NET Native Framework "updates" did not change the date.

    On my older Thinkpad, I have Office 2007. No Visual Studio Tools Runtime exists on it. I do not have that computer on that often so updates are not that frequent. Four updates for the .NET Native Framework Package appear for it for the period available on Reliability History (which is usually a max of one month): two for v1.2.23205 (the offending one) and two for v1.3. I also see two for the MS Advertising SDK for XAML.

    So I am not sure what might be the driving force behind the continued updates of the .NET Native Framework Package v1.2.23205 and MS Advertising SDK for XAML. The other thing that I notice is that in the <User> Packages folder, v1.2 has only a .NET Native Framework package and no corresponding Runtime package while .NET Native v1.4 has no Framework package but only a Runtime package. Whether that is right or wrong, I don't know.

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