1.    02 May 2016 #1
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Windows 7 Pro

    Will GenuineTicket.xml work after July 29?


    Hello,

    Quick question. Does anyone know if I run gatherosstate today and create a GenuineTicket.xml file, can I perform
    a clean install on my Windows 7 computer AFTER July 29? My reasons are complicated, but I just need to know if anyone knows for sure if this will work. Thanks for any help.

    Rick
    Last edited by Mutexx; 02 May 2016 at 09:55.
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  2.    02 May 2016 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    It will not allow you to get a first time activation of Windows 10 for free, if that is what you are asking. All it will do is flag your Windows 10 install as an upgrade rather than a clean install and after July Microsoft is scheduled to stop doing first time upgrades for free.
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  3.    03 May 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    It will not allow you to get a first time activation of Windows 10 for free, if that is what you are asking. All it will do is flag your Windows 10 install as an upgrade rather than a clean install and after July Microsoft is scheduled to stop doing first time upgrades for free.

    Yeah - this is a potential minefield. One of the big improvements of version 10586 was the ability to activate a clean install using old key.

    Actually, this was not specifically introduced to make it easier to install Windows 10 the first time, but to help in cases where reinstalls failed to digitally reactivate.

    So what happens to a user who originally upgraded legitimately and later reinstalls (after the free period) on same device (eg changing to an ssd) and it fails to activate? Whilst this should not happen, it certainly has.

    So, unless MS kep a record of old key used to upgrade as well, I cannot see any solution here, unless MS extend the free upgrade period ad nauseam.
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  4.    03 May 2016 #4
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10

    The PC will receive a Digital Entitlement that will be recorded with MS, if you preformed the upgrade...

    So reinstalls should not be an issue... The same as all Product Keys are Activated, that Key is now flagged as Digital Entitlement..

    If you are not sure about any switch over at this time >
    Create a complete system backup of your current PC using Macrium Reflect (Free)
    Go through the windows 10 upgrade process to get the Digital Entitlement
    Then Restore your PC to it's prior state from the Macrium Backup
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  5.    03 May 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyhi View Post
    The PC will receive a Digital Entitlement that will be recorded with MS, if you preformed the upgrade...

    So reinstalls should not be an issue... The same as all Product Keys are Activated, that Key is now flagged as Digital Entitlement..

    If you are not sure about any switch over at this time >
    Create a complete system backup of your current PC using Macrium Reflect (Free)
    Go through the windows 10 upgrade process to get the Digital Entitlement
    Then Restore your PC to it's prior state from the Macrium Backup
    For clarity,

    1) Upgrades from 7/8 get digital entitlement.

    2) Clean installs activated using an old 7/8 key get digital entitlement.

    3) Any install activated using the MS Store get digital entitlement.

    For all above cases, you can reinstall without a key (although it does glitch occasionally).

    4) All other cases DO NOT get digital entitlement. They use the traditional product key activation. Here you have to renter key to activate (automatic for most preinstalled oem licences similar to Windows 8).


    Well explained here.

    Activation in Windows 10 - Windows Help
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  6.    03 May 2016 #6
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Windows 7 Pro
    Thread Starter

    Thanks everyone for the clarification. Sounds like my best bet is to get my genuineTicket.xml, put a temporary drive in my computer, clean install 10, then put my original windows 7 back in for the time being. The reason I can't upgrade now is that I have a Windows software raid 1 as my data drive (Drive E: - 2, 2TB drives) and my boot drive is a 2tb, with a junction point for the users folder pointing to the mirror. I want to up the mirror to 2, 4tb drives and a brand new 2 tb. drive for C: (I can't afford the new drives right now). I'm sure it would be a bad idea to just upgrade to 10 with my configuration. I've done plenty of Windows 10 clean install's using the gatherosstate method., I just wasn't sure if the GenuineTicket would work after the deadline. Thanks for helping me out, have a great day!

    Rick
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  7.    03 May 2016 #7
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10

    Thanks everyone for the clarification. Sounds like my best bet is to get my genuineTicket.xml, put a temporary drive in my computer, clean install 10, then put my original windows 7 back in for the time being.
    That would be the best bet - to insure that you do not have to purchase a windows 10 product key after july 29th..
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  8.    03 May 2016 #8
    Join Date : Mar 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutexx View Post
    Thanks everyone for the clarification. Sounds like my best bet is to get my genuineTicket.xml, put a temporary drive in my computer, clean install 10, then put my original windows 7 back in for the time being. The reason I can't upgrade now is that I have a Windows software raid 1 as my data drive (Drive E: - 2, 2TB drives) and my boot drive is a 2tb, with a junction point for the users folder pointing to the mirror. I want to up the mirror to 2, 4tb drives and a brand new 2 tb. drive for C: (I can't afford the new drives right now). I'm sure it would be a bad idea to just upgrade to 10 with my configuration. I've done plenty of Windows 10 clean install's using the gatherosstate method., I just wasn't sure if the GenuineTicket would work after the deadline. Thanks for helping me out, have a great day!

    Rick

    You will very rarely need more than a 250 gb drive as your C drive. Even if you have hundreds of games, you can put them on your E Drive.
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