1. Joined : Mar 2016
    Posts : 3
    Win 10 Home
       22 Mar 2016 #1

    Windows 10 1511 will not install no matter what I do!


    The title says most of it, so I'll go through what I have tried and what happened when I tried it. (on version 10240 btw)


    • Run Windows update manually. I've run it dozens of times now, the 1511 update is there but always fails.
    • Make sure defer upgrades is uncheck. I don't even have this option, and haven't since I went from Tech Preview to full.
    • Use WIndows Media Creation tool. Gets to the end and says setup can't run, reboot and try again.
    • Install from ISO. Exact same issue as Media Creation tool, but without the long wait of it downloading files.
    • Run SFC and retry updates. Ran it once, it said there was files it couldn't fix but I tried updating anyway. Failed. Ran it 3 more times in a row (in hopes of it fixing the files it said it couldn't fix the first time) each times it said there was files it couldn't fix and the update still failed.
    • Download update from MS update catalog. Not knowing exactly which one it was when I searched for "1511" I downloaded all of the x64-based cumulative updates and tried all of them one by one. Every single one said it was not meant for my computer.
    • Downloaded .MSU file from another thread. I tried the 1511 one here and it also said it was not for this computer.
    • Rebooted into minimal startup and try from ISO. Same issue as if I wasn't in minimal. "Failed to start setup properly. reboot and try again"
    • Run DISM with /limitaccess. Same error as installing from ISO.


    So I am at a loss at this point. This computer started out as a Gateway machine with WIn7 Home on it, which I then upgraded to Win 10 Tech Preview, and then to full Win 10 Home. Back in September I replaced the mobo and processor and had to use an activator ( I actually went through 3 or 4 until I found one that worked) to keep it activated with the Gateway key.
    I've spent 3 days now working on this (while fixing a bunch of other software issues I had, like Cortana not working) so please, any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
    Oh and a clean install wouldn't be an option, as I have some programs that I may never find the setups for again.
    Last edited by RolandHazoto; 23 Mar 2016 at 07:42.
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  2. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       22 Mar 2016 #2

    RolandHazoto said: View Post
    The title says most of it, so I'll go through what I have tried and what happened when I tried it. (on version 10240 btw)


    • Run Windows update manually. I've run it dozens of times now, the 1511 update is there but always fails.
    • Make sure defer upgrades is uncheck. I don't even have this option, and haven't since I went from Tech Preview to full.
    • Use WIndows Media Creation tool. Gets to the end and says setup can't run, reboot and try again.
    • Install from ISO. Exact same issue as Media Creation tool, but without the long wait of it downloading files.
    • Run SFC and retry updates. Ran it once, it said there was files it couldn't fix but I tried updating anyway. Failed. Ran it 3 more times in a row (in hopes of it fixing the files it said it couldn't fix the first time) each times it said there was files it couldn't fix and the update still failed.
    • Download update from MS update catalog. Not knowing exactly which one it was when I searched for "1511" I downloaded all of the x64-based cumulative updates and tried all of them one by one. Every single one said it was not meant for my computer.
    • Downloaded .MSU file from another thread. I tried the 1511 one here and it also said it was not for this computer.
    • Rebooted into minimal startup and try from ISO. Same issue as if I wasn't in minimal. "Failed reboot and try again"


    So I am at a loss at this point. This computer started out as a Gateway machine with WIn7 Home on it, which I then upgraded to Win 10 Tech Preview, and then to full Win 10 Home. Back in September I replaced the mobo and processor and had to use an activator ( I actually went through 3 or 4 until I found one that worked) to keep it activated with the Gateway key.
    I've spent 3 days now working on this (while fixing a bunch of other software issues I had, like Cortana not working) so please, any help would be greatly greatly appreciated.
    Oh and a clean install wouldn't be an option, as I have some programs that I may never find the setups for again.
    Hi RolandHazoto and welcome to Tenforums.

    Okay, you've tried just about everything! I wonder - since sfc is not able to repair some things, perhaps you can try the DISM tool to get things in shape? I am thinking, since you have the ISO (from MS TechBench?) you could use the DISM command and point it to the mounted ISO and use the limitaccess switch to prevent it from using WU during the process. Please read through this tutorial:

    DISM - Repair Windows 10 Image - Windows 10 Forums

    When you replaced the MB and CPU, were they identical to the original? What do you mean, you had to use an activator?
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  3. Joined : Mar 2016
    Posts : 3
    Win 10 Home
       23 Mar 2016 #3

    simrick said: View Post
    Hi RolandHazoto and welcome to Tenforums.

    Okay, you've tried just about everything! I wonder - since sfc is not able to repair some things, perhaps you can try the DISM tool to get things in shape? I am thinking, since you have the ISO (from MS TechBench?) you could use the DISM command and point it to the mounted ISO and use the limitaccess switch to prevent it from using WU during the process. Please read through this tutorial:

    DISM - Repair Windows 10 Image - Windows 10 Forums

    When you replaced the MB and CPU, were they identical to the original? What do you mean, you had to use an activator?
    The DISM command line using /limitaccess also gave me "Setup could not start properly, please reboot and try again" (same message as if I was installing from the TechBench ISO)

    And no it was not the same mobo, I guess I should have said upgraded, not replaced. Because it was a new mobo it deactivated my windows key, so I had to use an activator to reactivate it. (The key was tied to the previous Gateway mobo which was decommissioned.)
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,763
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       23 Mar 2016 #4

    RolandHazoto said: View Post
    The DISM command line using /limitaccess also gave me "Setup could not start properly, please reboot and try again" (same message as if I was installing from the TechBench ISO)

    And no it was not the same mobo, I guess I should have said upgraded, not replaced. Because it was a new mobo it deactivated my windows key, so I had to use an activator to reactivate it. (The key was tied to the previous Gateway mobo which was decommissioned.)

    if I understand you correctly, you have an illegal activation of Windows. Our rules forbid any help with illegal activations. If you will get a legal installation we will be happy to help.

    https://www.tenforums.com/misc.php?do=showrules
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  5. Joined : Mar 2016
    Posts : 3
    Win 10 Home
       23 Mar 2016 #5

    essenbe said: View Post
    if I understand you correctly, you have an illegal activation of Windows. Our rules forbid any help with illegal activations. If you will get a legal installation we will be happy to help.

    https://www.tenforums.com/misc.php?do=showrules
    If I understand things correctly, it isn't illegal since OEM keys are allowed on 1 machine at a time, and the previous machine was decommissioned. (And by decommissioned, I mean the mobo and CPU were trashed and the PSU, hard drives, and vid card are currently in this machine)

    And as I look further into the ISO setup not starting, everyone else who has had this problem deleted "$Windows.~BT" but I am unable to delete this, even in safe mode it says something is using it.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 6,763
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       23 Mar 2016 #6

    When you use an activator to activate it, that makes it an illegal installation. You can call Microsoft and talk to them or get a legal Key. An OEM key is good for that machine (Motherboard). When you change Motherboards it is considered to be a new machine. Microsoft can help you activate it legally if they want to.
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  7. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,150
    W10Prox64
       23 Mar 2016 #7

    @essenbe is correct. This web site will allow you to download the licensing terms of your system. For W7HP OE-installed, I get this:

    Microsoft License Terms

    One Copy per Computer. The software license is permanently assigned to the computer with which the software is distributed. That computer is the “licensed computer.”

    Activation associates the use of the software with a specific computer. During activation, the software will send information about the software and the computer to Microsoft. This information includes the version, language and product key of the software, the Internet protocol address of the computer, and information derived from the hardware configuration of the computer. For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104609. By using the software, you consent to the transmission of this information. If properly licensed, you have the right to use the version of the software installed during the installation process up to the time permitted for activation. Unless the software is activated, you have no right to use the software after the time permitted for activation. This is to prevent its unlicensed use. You are not permitted to bypass or circumvent activation. If the computer is connected to the Internet, the software may automatically connect to Microsoft for activation. You can also activate the software manually by Internet or telephone. If you do so, Internet and telephone service charges may apply. Some changes to your computer components or the software may require you to reactivate the software. The software will remind you to activate it until you do.

    Validation verifies that the software has been activated and is properly licensed. It also verifies that no unauthorized changes have been made to the validation, licensing, or activation functions of the software. Validation may also check for certain malicious or unauthorized software related to such unauthorized changes. A validation check confirming that you are properly licensed permits you to continue to use the software, certain features of the software or to obtain additional benefits. You are not permitted to circumvent validation. This is to prevent unlicensed use of the software. For more information, see go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=104610.

    If, after a validation check, the software is found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or a non-genuine Windows product, or if it includes unauthorized changes, then the functionality and experience of using the software will be affected.
    OEM pre-installed terms link the key to that particular machine. When the machine is retired, the key dies with it. It's the same with System Builder keys. The only ones that have "transfer rights" are Retail keys. If you would have replaced the MB + CPU with the exact same things, a quick call to MS would have reactivated the machine.

    Sorry, but we can't help you until you have a legally activated setup.
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