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  1. Posts : 134,237
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 Build 22631.3296
       #411

    Something seems to be blocking Windows dism from doing any repairs no matter where the install.wim is located. At least it seems that way. 42 pages of trying to run dism successfully folks!!! 42 PAGES!!
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    Windows 10 Version 1511 (10586.164)
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       #412

    In an effort to make sure I've left no stone unturned, I tried one more time to run DISM from the jump drive I created that has the nice DISM workflow options, tools and other features in the handy interface from your user above. The malware scanners are finished and except for a ton of tracking cookies, nothing was found on any drive by any of the 3 scanners. Everything was detached except the keyboard and mouse. I even rebooted after I disconnected so that no drivers were let running without attached devices.

    No to, still get Error: 1392.

    This is baffling to me. My machine is running perfectly. I recently ran some speed tests to evaluate my new machine in comparison to other similar 3d guy's machines and it's creating mind blowing specs. I have no apparent bottle necks or issues. I don't get crashes, BSDs (well, we don't get those the same way we used to now in Win10) and nothing is malfunctioning. I get an occasional permissions related failure and I just "TakeOwnership" and that's done.

    I'm wondering if there isn't some "global" permission issue creating a block that inhibits DISM?

    No one responded to my earlier question so I'll ask again, is there a way to run DISM on my system from a repair environment? If that could be done is seems like it might circumvent permission issues, like I had trying to remove the 'Mount' folder.

    Just wanted to update you. I'm going to plug back in and work. I'll keep an eye out in my email for updates here.

    Thanks
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    W10Prox64
       #413

    RobH2 said:
    In an effort to make sure I've left no stone unturned, I tried one more time to run DISM from the jump drive I created that has the nice DISM workflow options, tools and other features in the handy interface from your user above. The malware scanners are finished and except for a ton of tracking cookies, nothing was found on any drive by any of the 3 scanners. Everything was detached except the keyboard and mouse. I even rebooted after I disconnected so that no drivers were let running without attached devices.

    No to, still get Error: 1392.

    This is baffling to me. My machine is running perfectly. I recently ran some speed tests to evaluate my new machine in comparison to other similar 3d guy's machines and it's creating mind blowing specs. I have no apparent bottle necks or issues. I don't get crashes, BSDs (well, we don't get those the same way we used to now in Win10) and nothing is malfunctioning. I get an occasional permissions related failure and I just "TakeOwnership" and that's done.

    I'm wondering if there isn't some "global" permission issue creating a block that inhibits DISM?

    No one responded to my earlier question so I'll ask again, is there a way to run DISM on my system from a repair environment? If that could be done is seems like it might circumvent permission issues, like I had trying to remove the 'Mount' folder.

    Just wanted to update you. I'm going to plug back in and work. I'll keep an eye out in my email for updates here.

    Thanks
    Hi.
    I believe you can run sfc /scannow or the DISM tool from the command prompt, when booting to advanced options.

    Edit: You'll probably be required to point to the wim.
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    Windows 10 Version 1511 (10586.164)
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       #414

    simrick said:
    Hi.
    I believe you can run sfc /scannow or the DISM tool from the command prompt, when booting to advanced options.

    Edit: You'll probably be required to point to the wim.
    I'll try anything. So that I'm clear, do you mean to boot to Safe Mode with Command Prompt and do it there? That's not a completely disconnected repair environment. I'm thinking it might be good to repair things with Windows completely disconnected. In Safe Mode, my Windows OS is still running.
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    W10Prox64
       #415

    RobH2 said:
    I'll try anything. So that I'm clear, do you mean to boot to Safe Mode with Command Prompt and do it there? That's not a completely disconnected repair environment. I'm thinking it might be good to repair things with Windows completely disconnected. In Safe Mode, my Windows OS is still running.
    No, it would have to be a boot from W10 media, going into advanced options, then command prompt.
    Like option #5 here:
    Advanced Startup Options - Boot to in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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  6. Posts : 165
    Windows 10 Version 1511 (10586.164)
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       #416

    simrick said:
    No, it would have to be a boot from W10 media, going into advanced options, then command prompt.
    Like option #5 here:
    Advanced Startup Options - Boot to in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    .
    Ok, I see. So given that, my Windows 10 original installation DVD is 5 months old. Should I use the ISO I downloaded yesterday from TechBench to create a 'RecoveryDisk' on a jump drive and boot to the Advanced Options that way? Then I know have a newer version. Or, does it not matter at that point, and that any Windows 10 installation DVD will suffice?

    Edit: Hold on, I'm thinking this through better. I don't think I even need a boot DVD. I see in the link that I can probably get to the Command Prompt without a disk.

    Edit again: I'm really not a space cadet. Ok, you mentioned Option #5 and that uses a disk so I'm back to my original question. Should I make a 'repair disk' from my newest ISO and use that?
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    W10Prox64
       #417

    RobH2 said:
    Ok, I see. So given that, my Windows 10 original installation DVD is 5 months old. Should I use the ISO I downloaded yesterday from TechBench to create a 'RecoveryDisk' on a jump drive and boot to the Advanced Options that way? Then I know have a newer version. Or, does it not matter at that point, and that any Windows 10 installation DVD will suffice?

    Edit: Hold on, I'm thinking this through better. I don't think I even need a boot DVD. I see in the link that I can probably get to the Command Prompt without a disk.
    I have to think about this too, because I've never done it.
    You have to boot to W10 install media, to get to the WinPE (Pre-deployment Environment) and not be in your existing OS. The WinPE will use the WinRE (recovery environment) to run which should be able to run DISM.
    When you boot to a USB Flash drive, I think you start seeing X instead of C drive....
    So, I am thinking there may need to be some modifications required to the tool's command to accomplish this.
    Maybe someone else has more experience in this?

    Best to use the most current TechBench ISO you just downloaded, yes.

    I'm sorry I can't be sure on this one.
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  8. Posts : 165
    Windows 10 Version 1511 (10586.164)
    Thread Starter
       #418

    simrick said:
    I have to think about this too, because I've never done it.
    You have to boot to W10 install media, to get to the WinPE (Pre-deployment Environment) and not be in your existing OS. The WinPE will use the WinRE (recovery environment) to run which should be able to run DISM.
    When you boot to a USB Flash drive, I think you start seeing X instead of C drive....
    So, I am thinking there may need to be some modifications required to the tool's command to accomplish this.
    Maybe someone else has more experience in this?

    Best to use the most current TechBench ISO you just downloaded, yes.

    I'm sorry I can't be sure on this one.
    Thanks. I just PMd 'Kyhi' about his WinPE disk and if he (I guess he's a he) thought it could be done from that environment.

    I did just try one goofy thing but it did not help. I noticed that the clock on my main machine here was out of sync slightly from my iPad and my Cable DVR time. Upon investigating, it was about 45 seconds slow. So I thought that maybe some time stamp of a few milliseconds might create a failure. I went to manage my clock and found that the server it was using would not update and failed. So, I changed the time server and it updated. I then tried DISM again but no luck. I had my fingers crossed.
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    W10Prox64
       #419

    RobH2 said:
    Thanks. I just PMd 'Kyhi' about his WinPE disk and if he (I guess he's a he) thought it could be done from that environment.
    Oh good. Yes, he will know.
    RobH2 said:
    I did just try one goofy thing but it did not help. I noticed that the clock on my main machine here was out of sync slightly from my iPad and my Cable DVR time. Upon investigating, it was about 45 seconds slow. So I thought that maybe some time stamp of a few milliseconds might create a failure. I went to manage my clock and found that the server it was using would not update and failed. So, I changed the time server and it updated. I then tried DISM again but no luck. I had my fingers crossed.
    That's not a goofy thing at all. An "off-clock" will throw security warnings in browsers and all sorts of other stuff.
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    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 23H2 Build 22631.3296
       #420

    Ok Rob, I've been thinking about your problems. We have tried many things and so far nothing seems to work. So I am thinking maybe you should try to do a Repair install of Windows 10. If you already have tried this, as I am not sure if you have, I would like you to try it again, doing it a little different.

    1st Make another complete image backup of your C-drive (or primary hard drive) Store in a safe place.

    2nd If you have more then one drive connected, disconnect all those drives, except your primary drive.

    3rd As per essenbe's suggestion earlier disconnect everything from your computer except keyboard & mouse.

    4th Type in your search window MSCONFIG that will bring up your System Configuration window, click on your services tab, then at the bottom, you will see a box to Hide All Microsoft Services Click that box on. Now view all the other services you have running, and turn them all off. Leave anything that pertains to your keyboard & mouse, on, also your graphics card too.
    Next reboot your computer.

    5th Now using your Windows 10 iso usb stick, run the setup.exe. Read this link carefully, before trying Rob, this shows you which options to choose, so that you will NOT lose any of your installed personal files or programs.
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade

    This may repair your windows 10, and fix your issues. During this procedure it will also ask if you want to check for updates, click YES. Then follow your needed prompts. Making sure you click on Keep Personal files and Apps.


    In most cases like yours I know some would suggest a clean Windows install, but I know that is NOT a choice for you, so this is the only other way I can think of to try Rob. Making your Complete Image backup of your primary drive is just insurance for you incase something goes wrong. Just make sure you have this image someplace that you can access it from. 2nd drive for instance. One of the programs on Kyhi's Rescure disk is Macrium Reflect. So worse case, you could use this to find and install your backup image.

    This is a lot of work Rob, but unless someone else has a better method, I would give this a try. Mike. :)
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