Windows 10: Windows takes two hours to boot every reboot. Goes to spinning circles

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  1.    13 Mar 2016 #211

    RobH2 said: View Post
    Yes, I was able to find it. It's very handy. I wish I'd known about it earlier.

    All well here still, reinstalled Acrobat DC. No errors. Remember it was showing up in a log as problematic. I can't get 'sfc /scannow' to complete successfully. It quits tat 46%. I ran DISM and it quit on me too on the 'Restore' side. I'm going to leave well enough alone for now as I need to get some work out. I'll tackle it later.

    I'll will pop in now and then and keep learning from you gurus...
    Yes, good that Acrobat DC is working well now. Well, get your work done, and we'll deal with the DISM as soon as you're able. We'll probably have to point the DISM to a WIM file for repair completion. Don't be surprised if you run into hic-cups with some software until that's completed. We really have no idea what that Tweak program did.
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       14 Mar 2016 #212

    The logs of this tweaking program.
    Attachment 69348
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       14 Mar 2016 #213

    RobH2 said: View Post
    Yes, I was able to find it. It's very handy. I wish I'd known about it earlier.

    All well here still, reinstalled Acrobat DC. No errors. Remember it was showing up in a log as problematic. I can't get 'sfc /scannow' to complete successfully. It quits tat 46%. I ran DISM and it quit on me too on the 'Restore' side. I'm going to leave well enough alone for now as I need to get some work out. I'll tackle it later.

    I'll will pop in now and then and keep learning from you gurus...
    The same I experienced only with different errors according to the logs, your Windows Store could be broken due to that software.
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       14 Mar 2016 #214

    Word Man said: View Post
    I'm kind of siding with Mike on 76% full is a bit much for an SSD (even by today's longevity/service life standards) and think, considering what Rob uses this system for, a 250 GB SSD upgrade may be a very good investment - once he loosens up the cash needed for it.
    76% is not a bit too much but way, way, way too much. So the question is: What can we suggest the OP to do to reduce it to a manageable size ?

    As often as we see some people having C drive with 200, 300 GB of space taken. Would you reccomend them to upgrade their SSD to 500GB ?
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  5.    14 Mar 2016 #215

    topgundcp said: View Post
    76% is not a bit too much but way, way, way too much. So the question is: What can we suggest the OP to do to reduce it to a manageable size ?
    Well we seem to all agree with 76% is high, and actually not good for the life of the SSD. (opinions differ on this) Rob has also stated that he WANTS too upgrade his SSD, also the one he has is 4 years old, newer ones, like Samsung, are faster, and more reliable. Prices have dropped a lot too the last year or so.

    topgundcp said: View Post
    As often as we see some people having C drive with 200, 300 GB of space taken. Would you reccomend them to upgrade their SSD to 500GB ?
    Rob uses this computer for his business, its for Work. The programs he runs, are needed for his work, would be better to stay on his SSD. I only recommended a SSD that was 250GB, nothing bigger. The prices for that size is very reasonable, as I was thinking about the COST factor. 84.00 for a Samsung 250GB SSD which would be faster, hold all the files he uses for work, should be just fine. If you look at his system and what he has invested in this computer already, to skimp on one of the most needed and important components does not make sense to me. This was just a recommendation for Rob. Nothing more.
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  6.    14 Mar 2016 #216

    Also, we can't forget about Rob's Windows OS Still needs some repairs, as simrick has pointed out. Rob knows this also I believe.
    We can try a couple different options when Rob is ready. I would try using the DISM repair using the Windows OS from Tech bench 1st .....Then if that doesn't work, a Repair Install. These are just ideas.

    Update: Before I forget, as axe0 mentioned earlier, we should ask Rob if he has a program like Malwarebytes installed. Because maybe some of his problems were due to some kind of malware.... just another idea.
    Last edited by OldMike65; 14 Mar 2016 at 09:15.
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       14 Mar 2016 #217

    Well we seem to all agree with 76% is high, and actually not good for the life of the SSD
    Would you explain to me why is it not good for the life of the SSD ?
    Rob uses this computer for his business, its for Work. The programs he runs, are needed for his work, would be better to stay on his SSD
    Does not matter if he uses for work or pleasure and I never said anything about the programs he runs need to be on another drive, did I ?
    The whole Windows Installation will take ~20GB, third party softwares do not take much of disk space to install, most of them are in order of hundreds MB or less, few such as Adobe software will occupy 1,2 GB, that's all !!! so where is the rest of the space taken and that's what we need to look at.
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  8.    14 Mar 2016 #218

    topgundcp said: View Post
    Would you explain to me why is it not good for the life of the SSD ?
    Before we get into this subject, I did say opinions DIFFER on this subject. But I always keep lots of free space left on both of my SSD's. Here are some opinions on why.


    If you fill a drive to capacity or near capacity, it’s likely that you’ll end up with many partially filled blocks after you delete files. The TRIM command just directs a solid-state drive to remove file data when the file is deleted. It doesn’t force the drive to do any sort of cleanup operation.
    In other words, fill a solid-state drive to capacity before deleting files and you’ll likely end up with many partially filled blocks. The drive won’t go out of its way to consolidate these partially-filled blocks into full blocks, freeing up empty blocks. The drive will still be full of partially filled blocks and write performance will be degraded
    Setting aside more spare area on the drives helped the performance to remain consistent, as it ensured the drive should always have enough empty blocks ready.
    They found that “minimum performance improves substantially once you hit 25% spare area for these [consumer] drives.” Their final recommendation was that you should “plan on using only about 75% of [your drive’s] capacity if you want a good balance between performance consistency and capacity.”
    If you have a solid-state drive, you should try to avoid using more than 75% of its capacity. Buy a larger drive with more storage than you need and you’ll ensure that you always have consistent write performance. Luckily, SSDs are gradually becoming much cheaper, so this isn’t as expensive as it once was.
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       14 Mar 2016 #219

    It is really not important enough to argue about. We have a good thread with a lot of contributions and suggestions from quite a few people. Let's not spoil it.
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       14 Mar 2016 #220

    essenbe said: View Post
    It is really not important enough to argue about. We have a good thread with a lot of contributions and suggestions from quite a few people. Let's not spoil it.
    I am not sure why you think we are argueing. This is healthy with different opinions and that's how we learn from each other.
    @OldMike65,
    Your answer is about performance, not about whether it's not good for the life of the SSD. However, that's why we suggest to the OP about cleaning it up to a manageable size.
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